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RolStoppable said:
TWRoO said:

Hey Rol... how did you (or Renar) get the gaming division operating profit for 96-98?
because I have just been looking through those reports and I couldn't find anything other than
revenue and sales for gaming division...
all the operating profits were lumped together for the company rather than being seperate.

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and finally, I guess the numbers Renar has given you do not include the R+D costs for the PS1,
which will probably have been in the 95 or 94 report... so Sony won't have made 383billion Yen in the PS1 era.

and according to the 1997 report the xchange rate then was 124 Yen to $1...
but unless it went up a lot before coming down recently I don't suppose that makes too much difference.


I actually haven't looked at the financial reports myself, because I just believed the numbers
Renar has given to be true. They fall in line with what someone would expect, so I had no reason to doubt them.

I think the reason why Renar hasn't given any numbers prior to '96 is because the gaming division wasn't
listed seperately in the financial reports until this point, so there simply aren't any numbers at all available.
Of course with the R+D costs for the PS1 Sony won't have made 383 billion yen in the PS1 era, but at least
we know that they haven't made more than this sum, in case somebody is claiming otherwise.

The total profit Sony has made off of its Playstation brand prior to the PS3 is somewhere between $5-5.5 billion,
since then they made a loss of about $3 billion. We don't have exact numbers for everything, but we have a
good idea how profitable the videogames business is/was for Sony.


page two is ifn on my laptop... it might have just been the Wii opera browser.
so I can finally reply to Rol.

Yes the numbers are all the same for Renar as the ones I found, except I couldn't find any
seperated (game division only) operating profit numbers for 98 and earlier (this is the year they showed
the game division as seperate from the "other electronics" division) I did find, as you can see on the
charts, the game division revenue/sales figures because they put a chart of it on the 1998 statement
showing the past 5 years (though there is no bar for 1994 because they didn't sell anything)

I will PM renar and ask him.... perhaps it was hidden in the text from one of the reports.