Dirtier than a politician? Ouch, crashman, double ouch. I may have given a couple people a bit more of a thrashing than they deserved but two key pet peeves of mine are debating from a base of ignorance and trying to debate me over a point I never made (especially with incorrect facts). I'm trying to figure out what wasn't presented objectively (did the 2001 recession not start in 2000? did Bush not get a majority of the vote in 2004? did Clinton not remain in office despite being impeached for perjury?) but then I suppose objectivity is somewhat subjective.
@kaz
That may have been what he meant but I can only debate what he said not what I think he meant. Clinton wasn't impeached becasue of the sex, he was impeached because he committed perjury by lying about it to a grand jury.
The grand jury called because of a law clinton had passed that allowed a woman who accused someone of sexual harrassment to drag anyone and anything before a grand jury. Paula Jones, one of the many women who was claiming Clinton harrassed her, had him and Monica dragged before a grand jury to establish that Clinton was adulterous as part of her case and he lied about it.
If not for the lawbreaking there wouldn't have been any impeachment. After all it was already well known that Clinton wasn't faithful to Hillary even as president but it wasn't until the perjury came up that impeachment started.
As for the censure, it was dropped. I recall the Democrats were claiming that they would rather censure than remove Clinton (he had alrady been impeached) but after he was acquitted the whole matter was forgotten. Here's the info about http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:SE00044:@@@L&summ2=m& that last ampersand is supposed to be in there but I can't get it to be part of the link. (EDIT: nevermind, it works anyways).
I don't mean to argue over something a decade old that is largely off topic but it is frequently said (including in this thread) that Clinton was impeached over sex, but it's not true. Which is also another reason I tend to stay away from these threads, I'm compelled to correct even off topic statements which are many in political threads.
