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Ok I went away hoping when I came back things would be more clear but they aren't. I'll need to reread post from the begining.  And focus on how scumy nord seems and what stefls aganda might be. Neither seems that believable at the momest.  Only person I know for sure I still think we should vote for is radish but after all this it may have to wait another day.  Saying you knew something or suspected something after the fact does'nt mean much.  Saying you don't think someone is scum who was pretty much dead just meant you didn't like the idea of voting for liars.  You having been caught yourself it seems more self interested than anything else.

Well I survied working black friday off to sleep.