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theRepublic said:
Kasz216 said:

Not really... I go by words and actions... your words stated that... I didn't actually think you realized you said that... but a lot of people say and believe racist and sexist things without realizing they are saying such things.  Like when they say Men and Women are fundamentally different personality wise.  They aren't.  It's 90+% Socialization that creates the differences between men and women.

I do believe that people can actually compartmentalize their work and what they believe.  I've seen it a lot.  People working against what they know is the best way to do something or refusing to do something they want... because they know the way they're supposed to do stuff.

Also, I actually do believe in people as a whole as well... though I find that laws that "force" people to appeal to better "morals" tend to be counterintutive to the changing of people.  In sociology it's a well known fact that changes that were made by changes in attitude influenced by education are much more effective then legislation.

Take a look at smoking.  More and more smoking is seen as gross and bad for you etc... when it used to be thought as cool.

Unless of course... your under the legal smoking age.

I was letting this go until now, but stop calling me racist.  You've been dancing around it without actually saysaying it but now you have.

I'll quote what I said to sqrl: "No it doesn't.  It assumes that people of different backgrounds have different life experience."

@bold

That can be done with your known biases, but what about all the unknown biases?

 

@Racism discussion,

I don't actually think he is saying you're racist...I think taking it that way is kind a dramatization of what has been said.  The original comment was certainly racist and you've re-introduced it lightly throughout but I know I don't think that makes you a racist and I seriously doubt Kasz does either.

At the very least you've poorly explained and defended your position and left several people with the same impression.  The reasons why don't really matter anymore.  Now you have rephrased what you've said previously here (a good thing for helping to clarify) but this rephrasing doesn't support your position like the original statement did.  This new statement says "backgrounds" but all sorts of people from all sorts of races have all sorts of backgrounds...so there is no need to select a latino, black, white, female, Indian, etc.. judge since we are just looking for backgrounds we can ignore skin color and sex...right?

So the question is then what in the background are we looking for again?  I'm confused on that point to be completely honest.

The real problem I have with your position is fundamental and perhaps it is ill-concieved.  So let me make sure I'm not mistaken: Do you think that skin color and/or sex should be a factor in selecting judges at any level? 

@ the @bold,

9 Judge Dynamic - It only stands up to so much abuse so the less bias we allow onto the court the more solid a protection against bias it will be. 



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