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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony first Party games sales, A huge leap from PS3 era. ( Entered Ninty Level ) Update: GOW at 10m & Uncharted 4 16M

Guerrilla finally got the success they deserve.



MasonADC said:
Still not convinced that they entered Ninty’s level

I’d say they’ve far surpassed Nintendo. What Nintendo IPs sell these numbers? Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, and their spinoffs featuring characters like Mario Kart and Smash Bros. There’s that Animal Farm thing too which I don’t know anything about but apparently it’s a big hit.

Sony now has Uncharted, TLOU, God of War Spider-Man, Horizon, also Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding will easily join them up there. I also wouldn’t count Gran Turismo out either, it could get back up there with Gran Turismo 7.

Lets also not downplay the fact that Sony’s games contend with the biggest franchises out there like GTA, RDR, COD and dozens more. While Nintendo has basically no competition in terms of big 3rd party titles.

most significantly of all Sony has shown great talent in creating new IPs that can do these numbers so they’re not dependent on a couple IPs that rely on nostalgia like Nintendo is. Sony can easily just drop any of these IPs and create a new one bigger than the last. No other publisher has that kind of ability least of all Nintendo.



Badwa said:
MasonADC said:
Still not convinced that they entered Ninty’s level

I’d say they’ve far surpassed Nintendo. What Nintendo IPs sell these numbers? Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, and their spinoffs featuring characters like Mario Kart and Smash Bros. There’s that Animal Farm thing too which I don’t know anything about but apparently it’s a big hit.

Sony now has Uncharted, TLOU, God of War Spider-Man, Horizon, also Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding will easily join them up there. I also wouldn’t count Gran Turismo out either, it could get back up there with Gran Turismo 7.

Lets also not downplay the fact that Sony’s games contend with the biggest franchises out there like GTA, RDR, COD and dozens more. While Nintendo has basically no competition in terms of big 3rd party titles.

most significantly of all Sony has shown great talent in creating new IPs that can do these numbers so they’re not dependent on a couple IPs that rely on nostalgia like Nintendo is. Sony can easily just drop any of these IPs and create a new one bigger than the last. No other publisher has that kind of ability least of all Nintendo.

All of this is great, but I’m just speaking purely of sales atm



Updated the thread with Spider-man 9M sales.

So
UC4 is the first 10M for the PS4.
2nd is a battle between God of War and Spider-man.
4th is HZD.
The last of us remaster could be the 5th.
TLOU II is 6th.
Death stranding and Ghost of Tsushima could be 7th and 8th.
Followed by Days Gone or Dreams.
A spectacular feat for Sony’s party input this gen.
Hopefully we will have 1 or 2 new big game for the PS4.



People downplaying Death Stranding don't take into consideration that it has a multiplayer mode that is supposedly as unique and ambitious as the main game.

Also Days Gone can reach 10 mil if Horizon did. It may not be as critically acclaimed (although I can see it have a 80+ metascore) but commercially it has a far greater potential.

Ghost can steal the audience of old assassin's creed fans considering it will certainly be more polished than the newest AC games and more similar in the gameplay sense (ac changed into a rpg). 5-7 mil is guaranteed. 

Dreams is a wildcard. It can be a flop or Sony's minecraft.       

In conclusion it seems everything Sony does this gen is a success. Their consoles, games and they even have the most popular VR. 

Last edited by PEEPer0nni - on 02 March 2019

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/gran-turismo-sports-hits-over-7-million-players.1473022/

GT Sports is now at ~7.1m Players (feb 21st 2019).

Even if this GT was kinda a fail, in that it focused way to much on online multiplayer.... it must have sold well enough to reach a player base that size.



Zombie9ers said:
This is most likely the 5th PS4 exclusive to cross the 10 million mark - behind Uncharted 4, Spider-Man, The Last of Us: Remastered and God of War.

good to know, have all this fantastic games :)

Keiji said:

Guerrilla finally got the success they deserve.

so true. i'm ready for the next true killzone-game (the experience are bigger now, than in the past for the team) and in future, horizon zero dawn 2.

Badwa said:
MasonADC said:
Still not convinced that they entered Ninty’s level

I’d say they’ve far surpassed Nintendo. What Nintendo IPs sell these numbers? Mario, Zelda, Pokémon, and their spinoffs featuring characters like Mario Kart and Smash Bros. There’s that Animal Farm thing too which I don’t know anything about but apparently it’s a big hit.

Sony now has Uncharted, TLOU, God of War Spider-Man, Horizon, also Ghost of Tsushima and Death Stranding will easily join them up there. I also wouldn’t count Gran Turismo out either, it could get back up there with Gran Turismo 7.

Lets also not downplay the fact that Sony’s games contend with the biggest franchises out there like GTA, RDR, COD and dozens more. While Nintendo has basically no competition in terms of big 3rd party titles.

most significantly of all Sony has shown great talent in creating new IPs that can do these numbers so they’re not dependent on a couple IPs that rely on nostalgia like Nintendo is. Sony can easily just drop any of these IPs and create a new one bigger than the last. No other publisher has that kind of ability least of all Nintendo.

sony has many new big ip's and they are very impressive. love games with fantastic gameplay, story and characters! The PS4 is the best Console of all time for me, together with the PS2.

NoCtiS_NoX said:
Updated the thread with Spider-man 9M sales.

So
UC4 is the first 10M for the PS4.
2nd is a battle between God of War and Spider-man.
4th is HZD.
The last of us remaster could be the 5th.
TLOU II is 6th.
Death stranding and Ghost of Tsushima could be 7th and 8th.
Followed by Days Gone or Dreams.
A spectacular feat for Sony’s party input this gen.
Hopefully we will have 1 or 2 new big game for the PS4.

thanks for the updates!



Uncharted franchise sales were almost 42M by December 2017 and was 28M just before Uncharted 4. So by then UC4+ UC TLL was 14M sold to consumers. Considering UC TLL just launched in the summer and a lot of people played it via season pass, i'm pretty sure UC4 would be 10-11M of those 14M sales at least. More than a year after those numbers UC4 probably sold another 1M, so if i have to guess, UC4 should be around 12M sold by now, probably more.

Then we have TLOU. Just before the PS4 version launched in 2014, the PS3 version was announced to have sold around 7M. By June 2018, TLOU (PS3+PS4) sold 17M. Knowing the game is still charting in PS4 sales everywhere, i won't be surprised at all if the game is already ahead of 18M, and i'm pretty sure, 10M at least must come from the PS4 version.

Horizon Zero Dawn, has been already confirmed to have sold "well over 10M units", so let's say around 10'5M units in two years.

Gran Turismo Sport launched on October 2017 and it was announced on July 2018 to have surpassed 5M players, so let's say the game was close to sell 5M by then. Knowing how historically GT sales work with its slow pace, if i have to guess, the game probably must be close to 6M by now and it will keep selling until next GT comes. In the end, won't reach 10M but it well sell well enough.

Spiderman sold 9M just before December 2018, so we can almost confirm it must be close to 11M by now, if not more.

God of War, probably will know the numbers for the 1st anniversary in a few weeks, but i'm pretty sure the game will be close to 10M if not alrady ahead of that.

Those are the "confirmed" games that have sold very well on PS4 as exclusives, and all of them are from different IP's. Days Gone is looking like it's going to sell a lot too this year, and it's another potential 10M seller in a year or two. Ghosts of Tsushima looks even more promising. TLOU 2 is a guarantee, and in my personal opinion is destined to beat every Playstation exclusive record at launch. Death Stranding will sell a lot at the start but i don't know if it will have the same kind of legs as the other ones. And Dreams, will sell well, but i don't expect anything close to 10M, but who knows...

So, TLOU, UC4, Horizon, GOW, Spiderman, Days Gone, Ghosts of Tsushima, TLOU Part II, and maybe Gran Turismo Sport, Death Stranding or even Dreams in the long future are or could be 10M+ sellers. All of this, competing against the most succesful 3rd party games also in the same platform.

5 years ago nobody expected Sony to have even one game selling this good. Now they can aim to have even 10 games selling 10M or more. almost all them from different IP's also, what i found super impressive. Nintendo is still the best selling exclusive developer/publisher in the world, but Sony this gen has closed the gap a lot and people should just acknowledge that and accept it.

PS5 annoucement with its first exclusive games is going to be something to behold....

Last edited by colafitte - on 02 March 2019

These sells are much more impressive......they have so much more competition from other AAA games compared to Nintendo which typically is only good for indies and their own games



Preston Scott

DaveTheMinion13 said:
These sells are much more impressive......they have so much more competition from other AAA games compared to Nintendo which typically is only good for indies and their own games

Having more AAA support in general adds more people to your system, allowing for more audiences to buy their exclusives. It goes both ways