I already said what I wanted to say.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3144861&page=99&postnum=7
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3144868&page=99&postnum=8

The way I play this game is by making observations and trying to act impartially on those observations. One observation I've made is the apparent teaming of zexen and WoW.

trangentspree thought so.

Vetteman94 thought so.

sabby_e17 thought so.

sabby explained his reasons for defending hatmoza as:

 which on the one hand, seems fair enough. but he DID seem to be a little bit too eager to believe him. either way, though, he was right and I can't really argue with that. however, I have taken into account the "buddy" system Zexen mentioned. Its a possibility.

But back to that argument.. zexen said this one day.. (when hatmoza asked him who he would go after when hatmoza turned up innocent)

Yet, if you read the sabby post i linked above, zexen's attention shifted to him and he seems to have all but forgotten about dgc (although i appreciate that zexen's buddy post may be the expression of his thought processes that lead to the change of heart. But I still don't understand why people would bandwagon sabby so readily. He did say this though, which seemed to be a contradiction of himself.

I may have missed all this in my first proper read-through of the thread because I was focusing mainly on Vetteman94 as requested. This time, however, I've tried to be a bit more broad in my search for information.

One more thing, SciFiBoy seemed to do a quick bandwagon-joination. He seemed just a bit too quick to agree, that's all.

And thus concludes my observations for today. I'm sleepy now.

Yeh, I suppose. I do seem suspicious, most of the time I do.

It's up to everyone who they want to vote and according to Trucks, the day should end in about 4 hours.

I should have nipped this in the bud a few pages ago, but knock it off.  I don't buddy so stop trying pair me with zexen.

I let it go at first, but you've been driving this train for too long and I'm tired of it.  Trying to build a connection that isn't there is cute but scummy and I can only ignore it for so long.

Now, does that mean I think zexen is guilty and don't want to associate with him?  Not necessarily.  The problem that I see right now is that people are bandwagoning on zexen because he's vocal and, quite frankly, because he's not me (thus easier to lynch).  I don't think zexen is innocent but I see no solid reasons to vote for him and when pressed he actually defended himself unlike sabby_e17 and KingFate.

Right now, I'm just puzzled that both sabby_e17 and zexen are on the road to be lynched in under 2 hours and neither has roleclaimed.

Actually my comment was more of a joke because this sabby vs zex is going so close lol. But well, double lynching zex and sabby would be a good idea, because I think sabby is the most suspicious player and zex just entered in my suspicious list and plenty of people want his head too, that way we would be sure of both in 1 day, BUT there's always the possibility of both being town which would suck ass (right now it wouldnt affect us as much if that was the case and the odd are that at least 1 is anti town, though). Anywayzzz, if everybody is agree we should do it, if not, well the other can wait

The times that you go and come are pretty weird and it looks too like a coincidence to be truth for me, but if you're telling the truth this is a case of "wrong time wrong place". And there are more reason for people voting for you.

And that should tell you something if that have gotten you lynched in past games and is now doing it again. I simply cannot understand this attitude of "I'm always crazy/ I always seem suspicious", I understand that some styles like being agressive or something like that, that make you look suspicious, but becoming suspicious because of lame things as overcondifence and such doesn't help us. Not only does that make us focus on you when you are innocent (in case you're saying the truth, that is) when we could be looking for another person, but also it gives you an excuse whenever you get an anti town role to act suspicious. It does NOT help the towny to act like that!

Im gonna ask again, what exaclty made zexen more suspicious than sabby before you made the colorful post? I have yet to see somebody to answer me that

About the teaming between zex and WoW.. Well.. I think that by now pretty much everybody who has paid attention to the thread should now about that, but it's cool that you notice it and say it again, I guess.

Well it's starting to look weird but you did again (intentionally or not) a rather biased post again, this time you are noticing even more things to make zex looks suspicious but now are "clearing" sabby.

Yes, sabby was right but in case he is mafia it's not that difficult to know hatmoza was innocent. In case you're townie you have zero possibilities of know who is towny or who is scum and his overconficende is worrying.

Zexen already answered the dgc situation and to be honest (when he answered) it had sense and looking at how this day envolved it's not really a surprise why he is not focusing in dgc. And I don't understand how you can defend him that much and voted zex when hadn't done anything worse than what sabby have done. There are plenty of posts and reasons of why sabby is getting voted,  I myself posted some of his posts and reasons.

To be honest I think you didn't focus a lot in that vetteman's post, the reasons are in my last post.

I don't understand your sfb "quick bandwagon-joination" link. He joined a zex idea that you yourself said you're considerating?

Now, the reason of why I'm saying your posts are a bit biased is because you seem to consider every possibility of zex being anti town but when it come to others you seem to "believe" or to not focus enought to consider them like zex.

Ok, maybe saying "overreacted" and "make a huge deal" are not exaclty correct statements of my parts because I was talking in general about you sfb and nen but still they aren't exactly off, and with those statements I mean when the no lynch vs lynch stuff was going on.

Since we're starting to repeat what we have said I'm keep this simple..

First you claimed that you didn't like how they were "controling" the game, when they weren't, then you changed your vote because they pushed you eventhough you said that you didnt believe it was the correct, and not only that but also you threated them when they didnt make you change it, and after some hours you change it back claiming "I dont want to be part of this". To be honest if you had mentioned your "I tried to speed up the process" when all that happened it'd have had some kind of sense, now it just seems like an excuse.

Read up and knock this shit off.

<1 hour till the day ends.

okay, has everyone voted yet?

anyone got an updated chart?

also, w00t, 1,000th post in the thread ^_^

I don't really think that you're teaming, what I meant by that is the situation of you and zex acting and thinking in a similar way. I should've put "teaming" to show that I said it just to give the reference (like everytime I put "").