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zexen is always aggressive in mafia games, so much so that i'm always sure he's mafia. thing is, he quite often is.
:/

but thats not to say that he is this time, obviously.

just that there's a strong possibility, especially with 2+ possible factions.



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I don't think zexen's a mafia.
I mean, he's not that stupid to try to get hatmoza lynched(that hard) if he was mafia, or so I think...

Why did you bastards have to kill FF? >.<



"And yet, I've realized that maybe living a "decent" life means you won't ever have a "good" life."

 

If there is more than one mafia family, the people that remain suspicious to me are those that exhibited group behaviour during Day 1. On top of my suspicion list remains both WoW and Zexen based on everything I already posted here.

Also I find this very odd...

Words Of Wisdom said:

I'm actually sad Final-Fan is gone.    My how the times have changed.

My top suspects:

SciFiBoy:  I'd have actually preferred a SciFiBoy lynch on Day 1 instead of Day 2 as of my last Day 1 post however I forgot about the deadline so I didn't get back in time to change my vote.  That hasn't really changed, I'd still like to see him lynched.

zexen_lowe:  He buddied heavily with me and a couple others on Day 1.  It's odd to see that zexen lived yet Final-Fan died when arguably zexen was following me most strongly.  It seems like if a mafia team was interested in killing active players outside me, he would have died before Final-Fan.  Speculation:  zexen is part of the mafia team that whacked Final-Fan.

sabby_e17:  Defended hatmoza very strongly.  Too strongly. Especially in this post.  Knowing too much is a scum tell.

???:  I'm actually very suspicious of this person but I'd rather not let on that I'm onto them so we'll just use "???" for now.  Depending on their posts today, I may or may not have a case to lynch them.

You and Zexen were the strongest twosome Day 1 and now you're abruptly turning against him? You weren't as defensive about him as he was about you throughout that day so from that point I can understand this, but you certainly weren't scum-hunting at him at all (that is strange considering how active you were at scum-hunting people in general) and this new suspicion of yours seems to have arisen out of no where today - as though you're trying to disassociate yourselves.

I also find it incredibly odd that Zexen so far hasn't made any effort to defend himself against you. Only two possibilities spring to mind - you have secretly agreed for this to happn and/or he doesn't want to draw attention to the fact that you have singled him out for suspicion.

Right now the only thing that I can see that gives Zexen a shred of benefit of the doubt is that nenseur was strongly objecting to him at the end of Day 1 and nenseur turned out to be mafia - but considering it's likely there are different families of mafia this game this doesn't win me over.

 

Also why wasn't WoW investigated by the cop last night? SciFiBoy seems like an odd choice to me, he was suspected by some but he was hardly leading people's opinions the same way WoW seems to be. Can the COP please investigate WoW tonight.

Also has anyone ever tried to lie about being the Cop before? Or the Doc for that matter?



Vote: Zexen

He wants me dead, and he wanted Hatmoza dead. I don't trust this guy.

If some of you listened to me, maybe Hatmoza wouldn't have died. It's just like last game, no one listened to me, and people listened to the scum and "bigger" players when I was right all along.




trashleg said:
zexen is always aggressive in mafia games, so much so that i'm always sure he's mafia. thing is, he quite often is.
:/

but thats not to say that he is this time, obviously.

just that there's a strong possibility, especially with 2+ possible factions.

I'm often mafia? Please point to a single game where I've been mafia. There isn't. Not a single one, you can search. I was Kira in ThatGuy's Death Note spinoff, but I bet you can't find at all a numbered game where I'm mafia




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sabby_e17 said:

Vote: Zexen

He wants me dead, and he wanted Hatmoza dead. I don't trust this guy.

If some of you listened to me, maybe Hatmoza wouldn't have died. It's just like last game, no one listened to me, and people listened to the scum and "bigger" players when I was right all along.

So, no justifying of your completely odd and not really believable behavior and a revenge vote? Yeah, that works fine...




As for my defense over last day (for everyone but for sabby, I know you don't read them/don't care about them), there's not really much to say. I oppose no lynch on first day on a non-vanilla game, therefore I wanted the day to end with a lynch. Hatmoza was acting more weirder than usual, that's something everyone noted. I knew there was a possibility of him being townie (IO¡m not an idiot), but I also thought he would be mafia.

The deadline was in a sense bad, because if it hadn't been there, I would have switched my vote to sabby, that with his unjustified defense convinced me much more of mafianess than hatmoza, but it was too late, and I still thought hatmoza was mafia, so I carried on. Yes, I was wrong, but I never pressured anyone to vote for hatmoza (key difference, FOR HATMOZA). If more people voted for him, it's obvious they found them suspicious too. Why don't you interrogate them too.

And sabby, you still need to demonstrate why you acted odd




trangentspree said:

You and Zexen were the strongest twosome Day 1 and now you're abruptly turning against him? You weren't as defensive about him as he was about you throughout that day so from that point I can understand this, but you certainly weren't scum-hunting at him at all (that is strange considering how active you were at scum-hunting people in general) and this new suspicion of yours seems to have arisen out of no where today - as though you're trying to disassociate yourselves.

I also find it incredibly odd that Zexen so far hasn't made any effort to defend himself against you. Only two possibilities spring to mind - you have secretly agreed for this to happn and/or he doesn't want to draw attention to the fact that you have singled him out for suspicion.

Right now the only thing that I can see that gives Zexen a shred of benefit of the doubt is that nenseur was strongly objecting to him at the end of Day 1 and nenseur turned out to be mafia - but considering it's likely there are different families of mafia this game this doesn't win me over.

 

Also why wasn't WoW investigated by the cop last night? SciFiBoy seems like an odd choice to me, he was suspected by some but he was hardly leading people's opinions the same way WoW seems to be. Can the COP please investigate WoW tonight.

Also has anyone ever tried to lie about being the Cop before? Or the Doc for that matter?

I didn't "associate" myself with anyone on Day 1.  I don't buddy.  After my big explanation of "Don't trust anyone whose alignment you don't know" on Day 1, you should know that by now.

What is zexen going to defend against?  That I think it's odd that Final-Fan died and he lived?  The only defense against that is "nuh uh" which isn't much of anything. 

Also, the cop did the right thing by investigating SciFiBoy as it saved the town from a possible mislynch. 

Lying about the Cop doesn't really serve a purpose.  Very few scenarios end well for a mafia member that roleclaims Cop.  Roleclaiming Doctor just gets you killed.

So who are your suspects Trangent?



zexen_lowe said:
As for my defense over last day (for everyone but for sabby, I know you don't read them/don't care about them), there's not really much to say. I oppose no lynch on first day on a non-vanilla game, therefore I wanted the day to end with a lynch. Hatmoza was acting more weirder than usual, that's something everyone noted. I knew there was a possibility of him being townie (IO¡m not an idiot), but I also thought he would be mafia.

The deadline was in a sense bad, because if it hadn't been there, I would have switched my vote to sabby, that with his unjustified defense convinced me much more of mafianess than hatmoza, but it was too late, and I still thought hatmoza was mafia, so I carried on. Yes, I was wrong, but I never pressured anyone to vote for hatmoza (key difference, FOR HATMOZA). If more people voted for him, it's obvious they found them suspicious too. Why don't you interrogate them too.

And sabby, you still need to demonstrate why you acted odd

I acted odd? I felt Hatmoza was townie and felt that we were going for a mis-lynch. So I tried to get people to not vote for him.

Please find a quote where I acted "odd"

I can tell that you're trying really hard to get me bandwagoned like Hatmoza. But since Hatmoza was townie, I'm sure people will think again before they jump on me. Lets see if your attemp at lynching me works this time. 

 




sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
As for my defense over last day (for everyone but for sabby, I know you don't read them/don't care about them), there's not really much to say. I oppose no lynch on first day on a non-vanilla game, therefore I wanted the day to end with a lynch. Hatmoza was acting more weirder than usual, that's something everyone noted. I knew there was a possibility of him being townie (IO¡m not an idiot), but I also thought he would be mafia.

The deadline was in a sense bad, because if it hadn't been there, I would have switched my vote to sabby, that with his unjustified defense convinced me much more of mafianess than hatmoza, but it was too late, and I still thought hatmoza was mafia, so I carried on. Yes, I was wrong, but I never pressured anyone to vote for hatmoza (key difference, FOR HATMOZA). If more people voted for him, it's obvious they found them suspicious too. Why don't you interrogate them too.

And sabby, you still need to demonstrate why you acted odd

I acted odd? I felt Hatmoza was townie and felt that we were going for a mis-lynch. So I tried to get people to not vote for him.

Please find a quote where I acted "odd"

I can tell that you're trying really hard to get me bandwagoned like Hatmoza. But since Hatmoza was townie, I'm sure people will think again before they jump on me. Lets see if your attemp at lynching me works this time. 

 

If you're a townie, then you cannot know other people's alignments. For you, their chances of them being mafia or town are equal. While voting hatmoza, I considered the possibilty of him being town (check every post I made), while you didn't. You seemed way too sure of him being town, and you didn't even stop to consider a slight chance of him being mafia. How were you so sure? You can't know other people's alignment beforehand unless you're mafia.

And again, I didn't lead a bandwagon, but you seem to think I did...how surprising