we should lynch people we have good reason(s) to think are mafia...

I can see why he would be less worth defending than someone you think or has claimed to be a more important pro-town role though, I agree fully with that bit.

what I do not see, is why anyone would say "even if he is a townie, we should kill him", how does that benefit the town? it benefits the mafia as we make there job easier in fact...

The point is, we (or, rather, I) think he's mafia, not town. But we know that, in the case he's town, his role is less useful than others.

so did you sleep over it? Can you tell me how I can prove my innocence Zexen? No, you can't because NO ONE can prove ANYTHING at this point.

my death will, but I don't want that.

Well, if you wanted to prove your innocence, why the hell did you roleclaim vanilla townie?

I claimed town or pro town at the beginning. Isn't that something natural we would want everyone to know or believe?
unfortunately I'm just a plain town, and I roleclaimed that not long ago, yeah we could have avoided it. But no, lets put enough pressure on someone, and then criticize him for finally roleclaiming. WOW already has its heart set on lynching me.

This is the second time now that your post has reminded me of SciFiBoy's 

so, you are happy to take that risk? granted its a risk with lynching anyone, but on the first day that risk is even higher, factor in hatmoza normally playing like this, that risk goes higher again, tell me what brings that risk down, if you give me enough things that do, I will consider voting hatmoza

so far I only have 1, his over defensiveness earlier in the game, that said, plenty of people have done that in the past and turned out both pro and anti town

Claiming pro-town is basically useless since everyone assumes a pro-town facade whether they're town, mafia or SK, the only way it would be useful is for a lie detector. Therefore, I don't know why you claimed pro-town

I never forced you to roleclaim v. townie (last time I did that I was almost lynched for that), and again it was unnecessary, you had how many votes? Never mind the fact that claiming v. townie is useless itself

Again, No shit! Thus the joke. Would it have made me less scum if I had talked about Chuck Norris?

Your style is completely different than usual. You are being Captain obvious this game when you usually have better analysis.

So basically, based on trends by more veteran members here, everyone is taking a "it isn't me" stand.

I can't account for much, since I barely know how to handle myself in here, but I've seen too many activity here, especially from some people who are trying too hard to look innocent.
I don't know about previous behaviours, so I'm taking leaps of judgment based on what i've seen so far.

That being said, I base my vote on lynching Hatmoza for now. He may do this in every game, but such a defensive behaviour means that either he's trying to confuse us or he's trying too hard to get credited this early in the game.