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No, it's not. It's no riskier than assuming players don't cheat by talking about the game outside here, it's just in the rules (and that is in fact there, it's not a rule you invented yourself)




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@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.



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zexen_lowe said:
No, it's not. It's no riskier than assuming players don't cheat by talking about the game outside here, it's just in the rules (and that is in fact there, it's not a rule you invented yourself)


after people die, they generally assume they arent playing again till the next round (apparantley you and dsister dont assume that though) so would be less likely to not talk to people about it.

though like I said I think its unlikely, im just pointing out that there is a risk of it happening, more so than if there still alive.

I also made other points, but you dont seem to care, youre just nitpicking and being fesecious.

 



TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player



SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.



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TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.

I know, I agree, but I can see why people might be more inclined to say something after they die, im sure you are too or you wouldnt have brought it up.

I get that, but the cop was practically confirmed anyway at that point, and I think everyone at that point believed the role-claim, so I dont see the harm, certainly it does less harm to the game than replacing him imo.



TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.

Well, if you give X townie his role, you just announce the modkilled was townie and don't say anything else, you don't say that you gave it to someone else. When I swapped roles after someone lurking I told the one that received it (I think it was Falcon) in PM and didn't tell the town anything




zexen_lowe said:
TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.

Well, if you give X townie his role, you just announce the modkilled was townie and don't say anything else, you don't say that you gave it to someone else. When I swapped roles after someone lurking I told the one that received it (I think it was Falcon) in PM and didn't tell the town anything

But then the town would have gone crazy thinking dtewi false-roleclaimed.

That  power swap would have been possible with the vigilante earlier in the game because he didn't roleclaim, nobody knew he was even around but I didn't think of it then.



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SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.

I know, I agree, but I can see why people might be more inclined to say something after they die, im sure you are too or you wouldnt have brought it up.

I get that, but the cop was practically confirmed anyway at that point, and I think everyone at that point believed the role-claim, so I dont see the harm, certainly it does less harm to the game than replacing him imo.

It's one thing to assume people might have talked about the game once they are dead. That's why I asked dsister about it before the swap but why shouldn't I beleive him when he tells me he didnt talk about the game to anyone?



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TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
SciFiBoy said:
TruckOSaurus said:
@SciFiBoy: In-game you're right we have no reason to trust anyone is telling the truth but I don't have any reason to think dsister44 would have lied to me just to play again.

im not saying he did, im just saying that its obviously more of a risk with a dead player

Outside of mafia, I'm generally trusting of people on VGChartz. I prefer thinking of people as good until they prove me otherwise than go the other way around.

Also, regarding saying "dtewi was modkilled and x got his role", the problem with that is me confirming somebody's role. I know everyone believed dtewi was the cop and that he provided valid information helping solidify his roleclaim but there was no official confirmation of his role. I didn't want to confirm or unconfirm his roleclaim.

I know, I agree, but I can see why people might be more inclined to say something after they die, im sure you are too or you wouldnt have brought it up.

I get that, but the cop was practically confirmed anyway at that point, and I think everyone at that point believed the role-claim, so I dont see the harm, certainly it does less harm to the game than replacing him imo.

It's one thing to assume people might have talked about the game once they are dead. That's why I asked dsister about it before the swap but why shouldn't I beleive him when he tells me he didnt talk about the game to anyone?

again, im not saying you shouldnt, im saying theres a bigger chance people might talk when they die, thats all.

I dont think you should put dead players back into the game anyway, as ive said like 100 times.

im also not saying that he did lie, im saying that if people are overly eager to play again, then they may well lie in order to do so, in this case I doubt it, but with players I dont know so well, I wouldnt be so sure of it.

anyway, this is detracting from my main point(s), so just forget about it if you dont agree.