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dsister44 on 08 March 2010
trangentspree said:

He was certainly the leading force during the first couple of days. He focused on easy targets such as Hatmoza, Scifiboy and Sabby because they tend to crack under pressure and make themselves look suspicious. And I'm not necessarily saying WoW is only interested in going after townies, like I said the SK (or any other scum faction for that matter) has competitors, and one of their priorities is to rid the game of their competition.

What do you mean they tend to crack under pressure? And all three of them were acting incredibly scummy. Hatmoza coming out and saying right before the game started "Finally, I'm not mafia"*, Sabby saying something like "I know he isn't mafia"* and SciFiBoy wasn't even lynched 

 

*Loose quote(from memory)



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KingFate on 08 March 2010
dsister44 said:
KingFate said:

 

I get your reason to a point. But Trangentspree has been jumping around with random accusations that to me don't make any sense. And the ones from yesterday were(IIRC)

  1. He seemed to be buddying up with Zexen on day one, then tried to distance himself from him the next day 
  2. He asked the cop to roleclaim to clear him, and then asked the cop not to investigate him

And I see why you are on the bottom of his lynch list. You have been confirmed to not be mafia and you are a lot less suspicious then Zex

If WoW was really pro town, you'd think he would watch the doctor. I mean he said he found out earlier on, he is the only person so far to stated to figure out. I have a feeling he is mafia. As is c03n3nj0 as he seemed to just bandwagon on with WoW. Those are the two most suspious people to me. Then comes trangent, then zexen.



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trangentspree on 08 March 2010
dsister44 said:
KingFate said:

The reasons for me not trusting WoW, are similar to his. I just find the fact that he is pointing the finger at people who were innocent(zexen and myself) and said we could the serial killer.Which makes me feel like him being the SK might have some merit.

When the chips were down and he was in trouble he asked to be modkilled, then makes this massive roleclaim. Which seems entirely too powerful. He was willing to be modkilled, then later on states he is the single most vital member of the town. And that ANYONE who questions him is wrong and should be lynched on the spot.

I also find it odd that he at one point voted to have me lynch. Then when the investigation said I was innocent, he claims that we are still worthy of being lynched. I am  the only person who voted to lynch him, and it seems he put me on the last to be lynched to win my trust, and win me over.

From what people have been saying, WoW has always been a very influental force in the games. Which makes me feel that he is playing the town since the start.

I apologize for  bad grammar, I am tired. So I hope this coherent

I get your reason to a point. But Trangentspree has been jumping around with random accusations that to me don't make any sense. And the ones from yesterday were(IIRC)

  1. He seemed to be buddying up with Zexen on day one, then tried to distance himself from him the next day 
  2. He asked the cop to roleclaim to clear him, and then asked the cop not to investigate him

And I see why you are on the bottom of his lynch list. You have been confirmed to not be mafia and you are a lot less suspicious then Zexen

You don't remember correctly. These are from old posts that I made earlier in the game that you dregged up yesterday to question me about. Our conversation ended with this post and a final point that you didn't respond to.

Why would any experienced player want to draw the cop out of hiding for any reason, knowing full well it means everyone knows who the cop is and they only have to find the doctor to completely screw the town over - and the doctor is forced to protect the cop from that point onwards and so is completely unable to protect anyone else in the town? A knock on effect of this is that the cop has to prove he is the cop by announcing someone as guilty/innocent - and with the average townie/mafia ratio there is always a better chance the cop will announce an innocent - and this gives scuma clear target for that night.

However, those points are still arguably true.



KingFate on 08 March 2010

I am too out of it to express what I am trying to say, if someone understands can you please translate lol.



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dsister44 on 08 March 2010
trangentspree said:
dsister44 said:

I get your reason to a point. But Trangentspree has been jumping around with random accusations that to me don't make any sense. And the ones from yesterday were(IIRC)

  1. He seemed to be buddying up with Zexen on day one, then tried to distance himself from him the next day 
  2. He asked the cop to roleclaim to clear him, and then asked the cop not to investigate him

And I see why you are on the bottom of his lynch list. You have been confirmed to not be mafia and you are a lot less suspicious then Zexen

You don't remember correctly. These are from old posts that I made earlier in the game that you dregged up yesterday to question me about. Our conversation ended with this post and a final point that you didn't respond to.

Why would any experienced player want to draw the cop out of hiding for any reason, knowing full well it means everyone knows who the cop is and they only have to find the doctor to completely screw the town over - and the doctor is forced to protect the cop from that point onwards and so is completely unable to protect anyone else in the town? A knock on effect of this is that the cop has to prove he is the cop by announcing someone as guilty/innocent - and with the average townie/mafia ratio there is always a better chance the cop will announce an innocent - and this gives scuma clear target for that night.

However, those points are still arguably true.

I didn't respond because we were going around in circles. He wanted the cop to roleclaim to clear him, because that is how the games usually go. And those two reasons are stupid because

  1. Zexen is innocent!
  2.  Because WoW's roleclaim explains it perfectly

On a side note. I am pretty certain that you are guilty. I was going to investigate you last night, but I decided to go after a lurker instead, but I won't make the mistake two nights in a row



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trangentspree on 08 March 2010
dsister44 said:
trangentspree said:
dsister44 said:

I get your reason to a point. But Trangentspree has been jumping around with random accusations that to me don't make any sense. And the ones from yesterday were(IIRC)

  1. He seemed to be buddying up with Zexen on day one, then tried to distance himself from him the next day 
  2. He asked the cop to roleclaim to clear him, and then asked the cop not to investigate him

And I see why you are on the bottom of his lynch list. You have been confirmed to not be mafia and you are a lot less suspicious then Zexen

You don't remember correctly. These are from old posts that I made earlier in the game that you dregged up yesterday to question me about. Our conversation ended with this post and a final point that you didn't respond to.

Why would any experienced player want to draw the cop out of hiding for any reason, knowing full well it means everyone knows who the cop is and they only have to find the doctor to completely screw the town over - and the doctor is forced to protect the cop from that point onwards and so is completely unable to protect anyone else in the town? A knock on effect of this is that the cop has to prove he is the cop by announcing someone as guilty/innocent - and with the average townie/mafia ratio there is always a better chance the cop will announce an innocent - and this gives scuma clear target for that night.

However, those points are still arguably true.

I didn't respond because we were going around in circles. He wanted the cop to roleclaim to clear him, because that is how the games usually go. And those two reasons are stupid because

  1. Zexen is innocent!
  2.  Because WoW's roleclaim explains it perfectly

On a side note. I am pretty certain that you are guilty. I was going to investigate you last night, but I decided to go after a lurker instead, but I won't make the mistake two nights in a row

1. Buddying with a player that might be innocent is not a stuipid move for scum. He only started to distance himself from Zexen the next day when Zexen was already coming under suspicion from people.

2. I redirect you to this post yet again.

Why would any experienced player want to draw the cop out of hiding for any reason, knowing full well it means everyone knows who the cop is and they only have to find the doctor to completely screw the town over - and the doctor is forced to protect the cop from that point onwards and so is completely unable to protect anyone else in the town? A knock on effect of this is that the cop has to prove he is the cop by announcing someone as guilty/innocent - and with the average townie/mafia ratio there is always a better chance the cop will announce an innocent - and this gives scuma clear target for that night.

Even WoW later admitted this was not a good move.



KingFate on 08 March 2010

Ok, as I was trying to say earlier. The two people who I trust the least are WoW and c03n3nj0. WoW for reasons I have stated before, and c03n3nj0 seemed to bandwagon with little reasons. Also, c03n3nj0 has been very silent as of late and I do not trust that.



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dsister44 on 08 March 2010
trangentspree said:

1. Buddying with a player that might be innocent is not a stuipid move for scum. He only started to distance himself from Zexen the next day when Zexen was already coming under suspicion from people.

2. I redirect you to this post yet again.

  Why would any experienced player want to draw the cop out of hiding for any reason, knowing full well it means everyone knows who the cop is and they only have to find the doctor to completely screw the town over - and the doctor is forced to protect the cop from that point onwards and so is completely unable to protect anyone else in the town? A knock on effect of this is that the cop has to prove he is the cop by announcing someone as guilty/innocent - and with the average townie/mafia ratio there is always a better chance the cop will announce an innocent - and this gives scuma clear target for that night.

Even WoW later admitted this was not a good move.

1. But why would a scum separate from themselves from an innocent? 

2. Explain this to me. What does this have to do with what I said?



dsister44 on 08 March 2010
KingFate said:
Ok, as I was trying to say earlier. The two people who I trust the least are WoW and c03n3nj0. WoW for reasons I have stated before, and c03n3nj0 seemed to bandwagon with little reasons. Also, c03n3nj0 has been very silent as of late and I do not trust that.

Well c03n3nj0 is fourteen years old and is in school. So that would explain why he didn't post at all last night or today 



KingFate on 08 March 2010

Ah that would explain it, I take that back then.



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