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Forums - Sales Discussion - When does Sony reach the point of no return in Japan?

Hus, troll this forum more often. I've seen many of the threads deal with the vaunted Sony 1st party machine. PS1 Sony game attach rate was just below 1, PS2 it was below 0.7. Sony accounted for just 28% and 15% of game sales over 1 million respectively. So far Resistence has sold to 36% of PS3 owners despite being one of the few big games on the PS3 at its launch. Zelda has sold to 51% of Wii owners despite over twice the user base. As just one example from the PS2 days, God of War is supposedly one of the true gems of Sony's crown. Yet with a 110 million user base it sold only 2.5 million copies. Sony in all liklihood cannot survive on their 1st party games alone. Nintendo has had an attach rate of greater than 3:1 on every system except the DS (still young so it will probably change) and SNES where it was 2:1. Nintendo has shown it can live on 3rd party whether market leader or not, Sony has given no reason thus far to suspect that it can do the same. Again, we are going to find out soon though.

Hus said: best 3rd and 1st party games. best of both worlds!
That one is just too funny Hus, you are if nothing else entertaining .



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PS360N64PSXBOX said: PS3 numbers need to be paid attention to also, if they go up over last month, and they will, the PS3 is fine.
How could they not go up with such a low starting point? Then again I recall thinking that when the PS3 hit 30k a week in Japan, it bounced up to 40k that's expected, until it promptly fell below 20k.



albionus said: I know there's little point to responding to the claim that the Wii is a fad. It's simply what Sony fanboys rationalize the stunning change of fortunes in the video game industy as they cry themselves to sleep every night.
Quoted for ultimate and hilarious truth.



The Joker said: albionus said: I know there's little point to responding to the claim that the Wii is a fad. It's simply what Sony fanboys rationalize the stunning change of fortunes in the video game industy as they cry themselves to sleep every night.Quoted for ultimate and hilarious truth.
Dual Nintendo Wiinies in one swoop! Good catch! You haven't won yet so get over yourselves!



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albionus said: PS360N64PSXBOX said: PS3 numbers need to be paid attention to also, if they go up over last month, and they will, the PS3 is fine. How could they not go up with such a low starting point? Then again I recall thinking that when the PS3 hit 30k a week in Japan, it bounced up to 40k that's expected, until it promptly fell below 20k.
US numbers are by month, Japan is by week. That may explain something. But they should rise after the GTA 4 thing bing shown and the strong europe and aussie sale, good stuff!



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FishyJoe said: Reminds me of the people who kept calling the iPod a fad. They would constantly chirp about how other companies were making better players with more features, blah blah blah. They will probably go to their grave calling anything successful a fad.
The ipod was never a fad, but a good idea. It was something everybody wanted and not a toy. By the time others came up with players it was already lost for them. Don't compare the wii to an Ipod..it's just silly.



Predicting the Future - 360 Will get to 11 Million in the USA this year!!

Predicting the Future - Wii will NOT win this gen in America!!


Prediciting the Future - The PS3 will pass the Wii by 2009!!

No PS360.... Nintendo hasn't won the fight yet. It's like the World Series or basketball championships, its best 4 out of 7. Nintendo won the first game and has a decent lead in the second but that doesn't mean Nintendo has won the series yet. It does mean that Nintendo is better positioned to win it all and that Nintendo fans have more reason to cheer at the moment. As for Japan's numbers being weekly, convert them to monthly, I thought the PS3's floor was around 120-140,000 and it's trending to 80-90,000 per month.



PS360N64PSXBOX said: Dual Nintendo Wiinies in one swoop! Good catch! You haven't won yet so get over yourselves!
I enjoy your bitter tears very much.



Uhm... the PS3 "Aussie" was the biggest disappointment, last time I checked. We won't know how the PS3 is doing in europe 'till we see sales info from May? At this point it's a possibility it may drop off like the other 2 markets have. Then again, it may not. We won't know for sure. But Japan's PS3 situation isn't likely to change in the next few months, at the very least. And to compare the Wii to the Dreamcast is absurd, Sega could have only "dreamed" to have the advantages the Wii has gotten this generation, it was never selling out consistently in 3 territories well after chrismas (not even 1), it never had such fantastic publicity, it never had 3rd parties jumping onto the bandwagon in such an insane manner. :) I love my Dreamcast and the 10 games I have for it, but it's comparing apples and oranges, essentially.



Nobody is crazy enough to accuse me of being sane.

The Joker said: PS360N64PSXBOX said: Dual Nintendo Wiinies in one swoop! Good catch! You haven't won yet so get over yourselves!I enjoy your bitter tears very much.
Grow up. How old are you? 12?



Predicting the Future - 360 Will get to 11 Million in the USA this year!!

Predicting the Future - Wii will NOT win this gen in America!!


Prediciting the Future - The PS3 will pass the Wii by 2009!!