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Ah ah still no answer about the 360 part or the games selling millions on PSP. Nice !

Since 360 is behind PSP, "I doubt the future's going to look all that bright after this summer... time for Xbox 720 ?".

Just quoting you and using your own conclusions.



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mario64 said:

Ah ah still no answer about the 360 part or the games selling millions on PSP. Nice !

Since 360 is behind PSP, "I doubt the future's going to look all that bright after this summer... time for Xbox 720 ?".

Just quoting you and using your own conclusions.

No, 360's actually going to keep getting support since it actually sells software in more than one country.  Also, can you name for me all the PSP games that moved "millions" in 2009?  Thanks?



mario64 said:
I won't argue more. Numbers are talking for me, it's ok. Go check lifetime sales in Japan, or weekly sales.

PS3 is on a roll compared to 360 in Japan. It's winning. A few weeks ago, it even outsold 360 30:1, defending those numbers is laughable.

Even if PS3 was outselling 360 100:1, you'd still pretend it's losing. It's ok for me. ;)

Lol @ jarrod not defending the 360. Every post he makes looks like a MS ad.

I don't want to get into this argument, especially as I haven't read much of this thread since I last posted... but using ratios alone is not a good measure of success.

I agree with you the the X360 is a failure in Japan, much more than the PS3 is a failure in America.... but relative to expectations it is entirely the opposite... The X360 looks like it will manage 3-4 times what the xbox did in Japan (again ratios aren't a fair way of looking at it on their own, but still useful) while the PS3 should manage between 1/4 and 1/3rd of what the PS2 did in Japan)

Anyhow, back to my point, the ratio thing alone can't be compared fairly between two different regions like that.... it is fairly easy to outsell something by 30:1 when such small numbers are involved... trying to outsell by 30:1 in America would be an incredible feat for 2 current consoles. The market is just very different. there is also the fact that the PS3 can easily outsell X360 by 30:1 in Japan, but the X360 can perform evenly in numbers by only outselling PS3 2:1 in America (that was just an example)



Can I get my apology now?



letsdance said:
Can I get my apology now?

Well, no since they already credited the profits from Networked Products & Services to the Vaio rebound and specifically said profitability was unchanged in the games unit.  Did you read the IR report?



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letsdance said:
Can I get my apology now?

Why? This quarter was flat YoY for Sony games business, and it was down in the two previous quarters. The latest financials actually prove you wrong. Q4 08 was down, Q1 09 was down, "The division reported an operating loss of 39.7 billion yen ($418m/£254.2m), with profit declines in the games segment and on VAIO PCs again largely responsible", Q2 09 was down 24% YoY. Q3 was flat. The lost billion figure was for the year 09, and it seems Sony did not reduce costs enough over that time period to account for lost revenue.



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