I won't argue more. Numbers are talking for me, it's ok. Go check lifetime sales in Japan, or weekly sales.

PS3 is on a roll compared to 360 in Japan. It's winning. A few weeks ago, it even outsold 360 30:1, defending those numbers is laughable.

Even if PS3 was outselling 360 100:1, you'd still pretend it's losing. It's ok for me. ;)

Lol @ jarrod not defending the 360. Every post he makes looks like a MS ad.

Yes, me saying 360's JP performance is incomparably bad and that PS3 is basically tied with it in America certainly makes me out to be prime MS PR material. ;)

Yet, somehow though it all, you keep saying "PS3 is winning" in Japan, as if that's even plausibly close to the truth...

Whatever helps you sleep better at night, jarrod.

Next time I win 10-1 at soccer, I'll cry because I'm losing in my head like jarrod told me.

With that and the meltdown thread asking for censorship of good sony news (my thread pick of the day), this forum has become priceless recently.

So what happens when you get creamed 2-1 in the Final Cup?  You'll just pretend it didn't happen and crow about that game you won 10-1 against the worst team in the league?

So how much must you win against this team for it to be considered a success ? 100-1 or 1000-1 ?

Nice to hear you think the 360 is the worst though. I definitely agree.

I know no Final Cup Sony is losing though. Recent numbers are good, even PSP is in front of the 360 worldwide (360 is last place for the 3rd week in a row).

isupply just came out with another estimate...

Ps3 cost reduction > Ps3 price reduction

Can I get an apology?

Sure, once you show how this saves them a billion dollars on costs relating to consoles sold in the US.

It shows that lost revenue means absolutly nothing if we dont know the reduced costs.... like ive been saying from the get go....

Especially considering Sony doesnt need to make up a billion dollars because that number has already been mostly accounted for in previous financial statements.

That's materials/assembly for the console only (which is all iSupply teardowns cover), being a $37 loss.  Doesn't include controller, cables, boxing, manuals, etc, so overall production costs are likely closer to say a $45 loss.  And that's in terms of MSRP, retail buys in the consoles slightly cheaper.

They'd probably be breaking even on the 250GBs though. 

We do have 2 legitimate estimates now though, and iSupply's is more recent (Dec 2009), so it's probably the better one to go with.

actually... it does include that stuff... the controller is down for 15 dollars.