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Demotruk on 16 January 2010
Ail said:
With so many people on this site knowing so much more than existing game companies executives, why don't you guys band together and start your own company ?

Oh wait, it's because you are random anonymous people talking out of your ass on an internet forum with no real experience at all working in the software industry, even less the gaming industry...

So we should all shut up and not discuss topics that interest us.

Industry execs make mistakes. We're using our own brains to see if we can spot them ahead of time.



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trestres on 16 January 2010

Those execs will need to find themselves another job then, since their companies are posting constant losses and have been for years now.

Meanwhile Nintendo is posting record profits.



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jarrod on 16 January 2010
Demotruk said:
11ht11 said:
wii has gotten 3rd party games, but they get ignored

They get ignored because they suck.

I "supported" third party games, but I got burned by them often. The Conduit, Little King's Story, among others. I'm not going to keep doing it just so that third parties can feel a little safer on Wii. I apply to them the same standard I apply to Nintendo these days.

Yeah, because the industry outside Nintendo is just in GREAT shape. ;)



LordTheNightKnight on 16 January 2010
jarrod said:
Demotruk said:
11ht11 said:
wii has gotten 3rd party games, but they get ignored

They get ignored because they suck.

I "supported" third party games, but I got burned by them often. The Conduit, Little King's Story, among others. I'm not going to keep doing it just so that third parties can feel a little safer on Wii. I apply to them the same standard I apply to Nintendo these days.

Yeah, because the industry outside Nintendo is just in GREAT shape. ;)

Although some counld just be the economy, while others are from bad business.



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Sempuukyaku on 16 January 2010
Ail said:
With so many people on this site knowing so much more than existing game companies executives, why don't you guys band together and start your own company ?

Oh wait, it's because you are random anonymous people talking out of your ass on an internet forum with no real experience at all working in the software industry, even less the gaming industry...

Are you done adding your awesome, reasoned insight? Or are you going to continue to troll on the Nintendo forum? I'm just curious.



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NJ5 on 16 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
jarrod said:
Demotruk said:
11ht11 said:
wii has gotten 3rd party games, but they get ignored

They get ignored because they suck.

I "supported" third party games, but I got burned by them often. The Conduit, Little King's Story, among others. I'm not going to keep doing it just so that third parties can feel a little safer on Wii. I apply to them the same standard I apply to Nintendo these days.

Yeah, because the industry outside Nintendo is just in GREAT shape. ;)

Although some counld just be the economy, while others are from bad business.

The game industry can't complain much about the recession...

 



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astrosmash on 16 January 2010
Ail said:
With so many people on this site knowing so much more than existing game companies executives, why don't you guys band together and start your own company ?

Oh wait, it's because you are random anonymous people talking out of your ass on an internet forum with no real experience at all working in the software industry, even less the gaming industry...

 

There were a lot of people, laymen, who saw the problems with the American auto industry back in the 80s and even earlier. But the people with real experience working in the auto industry somehow seemed blind to the obvious problems.

 

I'm not saying that those claiming the video game industry is blind to its own follies are necessarily right, but it is foolish to assume that experience trumps the bias one gains from being personally invested in a situation.



trestres on 16 January 2010
Khuutra said:
Johann said:
trestres said:
Johann said:

So what you're saying is that although the Wii sells the most sofware (1st and 3rd party) and hardware out of the big 3, you still want more support to go to it?

More support? Don't you mean at least some support?

Last time I checked (and I really mean that, I haven't checked in a while) the Wii still sells the most 3rd party software out of the big 3.

So how can it not get be getting support? Are 3rd parties publishing Nintendo games?

I think the thing here is that trestres - like many other Wii buyers (myself excluded, and I want to point that out particularly) - wants third parties to publish the same sorts of games on the Wii that they do on the HD consoles.

It's not a bad wish, it's jsut untenable and it would be a terrible decision for these companies.

I wasn't asking specifically for the same kind of games the HD consoles are getting. My complaint is that none of these devs have invested the time/money/resources on the Wii as they had with the HD consoles. Also I was noting the amount of games coming up that are of quality. Genre doeswnt matter, unless its overflooded.



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Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

Khuutra on 16 January 2010
trestres said:
Khuutra said:

I think the thing here is that trestres - like many other Wii buyers (myself excluded, and I want to point that out particularly) - wants third parties to publish the same sorts of games on the Wii that they do on the HD consoles.

It's not a bad wish, it's jsut untenable and it would be a terrible decision for these companies.

I wasn't asking specifically for the same kind of games the HD consoles are getting. My complaint is that none of these devs have invested the time/money/resources on the Wii as they had with the HD consoles. Also I was noting the amount of games coming up that are of quality. Genre doeswnt matter, unless its overflooded.

I apologize for my presumption, I did not mean to misrepresent you.



Innervate on 16 January 2010
Demotruk said:
11ht11 said:
wii has gotten 3rd party games, but they get ignored

They get ignored because they suck.

I "supported" third party games, but I got burned by them often. The Conduit, Little King's Story, among others. I'm not going to keep doing it just so that third parties can feel a little safer on Wii. I apply to them the same standard I apply to Nintendo these days.

The disdain from 3rd parties caused me to rent or buy used on all systems so they don't get my money. I'd rather support Gamestop before supporting Capcom and EA.