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Check out this system from Tech Report: http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19159/6 it should have everything you need.



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Epoch said:
markers said:

Hey folks, I am looking to build two computers. Been reading this thread and have a small idea but thought I would ask. Here it goes,

Budget - $1-600 per pc

Games - FFXIV, Starcraft 2, Crysis (does not need to be ultra high or whatever just decently with 30 fps), dragon age, and whatever is out or coming out soon.

Applications - Photoshop and other various editing and drawing applications, Music stuff (mixing, burning, ripping, creating, that kind of stuff) Movie stuff, big excell sheets,  and any other everyday things. I generally have many things open at once due to working on something that requires multiple apps or just because I am multitasking.

With that in mind I want at least,

4gb of ram (wth is the difference between ddr2 or ddr3 or whatever it is)

1gb of gpu ram (same as the ram, wth is the difference between ddr2 or ddr3 or whatever it is)

Probably at least a triple core cpu (was looking at the i3 and i5's but do not think the budget allows and I do not know how to overclock)

 

Word up

Heya, I'm assuming $1-600 = $1,600?  If so, then you can build the same computer I built a few months ago and still have a bit left over.

i7 860 2.8 GHz Quad core

8 GB DDR3 G-Skill RAM

Radeon 5850 1 GB DDR5 GPU

1 TB Caviar Black Hard Drive.

Gigabyte P55 UD3 Motherboard

Lian Li Aluminum Case.

Asus DVD-RW

My total after taxes was just under $1500 CAD.  If you live in the states it will be even cheaper. 

Newegg usually has the best prices, and they have a good RMA policy as well.

lol i meant my budget was 1 dollar to 600 dollars :P



Okie dokie I had a lookie and this is what I came up with for roughly $670 incl shipping.

  • Phenom II 3.0Ghz 95W
  • HD 5770 from Saphire with 1GB GDDR5
  • 4GB Ram from Geil
  • Coolermaster case with 460W PSU
  • Windows 7 64bit
  • 320GB W/D HDD
  • Sony DVD burner.
  • AsRock AM 770 ATX Mobo with 4 ram slots.

In order here are links to them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442704

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144266

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176

How does that sound? If you want to you can trim the processor / video card back but I felt this offered the best value from what I could see.



WilliamWatts said:

Okie dokie I had a lookie and this is what I came up with for roughly $670 incl shipping.

  • Phenom II 3.0Ghz 95W
  • HD 5770 from Saphire with 1GB GDDR5
  • 4GB Ram from Geil
  • Coolermaster case with 460W PSU
  • Windows 7 64bit
  • 320GB W/D HDD
  • Sony DVD burner.
  • AsRock AM 770 ATX Mobo with 4 ram slots.

In order here are links to them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442704

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144266

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176

How does that sound? If you want to you can trim the processor / video card back but I felt this offered the best value from what I could see.


looks good. can you explain the choices, like pros and cons over other things or something?



markers said:
WilliamWatts said:

Okie dokie I had a lookie and this is what I came up with for roughly $670 incl shipping.

  • Phenom II 3.0Ghz 95W
  • HD 5770 from Saphire with 1GB GDDR5
  • 4GB Ram from Geil
  • Coolermaster case with 460W PSU
  • Windows 7 64bit
  • 320GB W/D HDD
  • Sony DVD burner.
  • AsRock AM 770 ATX Mobo with 4 ram slots.

In order here are links to them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442704

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144266

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176

How does that sound? If you want to you can trim the processor / video card back but I felt this offered the best value from what I could see.


looks good. can you explain the choices, like pros and cons over other things or something?

The Phenom II X4 3.0Ghz and the Saphire card were a bundle sale. Since you wanted to do relatively CPU intensive tasks with music editing/burning/excel/photoshop I started with the assumption that a strong CPU would be an excellent base for what you wanted to do with the computer. The Saphire 5770 was about the best price/performance graphics card which fit your requirements whilst still keeping within your budget. Furthermore since it doesn't draw too much power you could get away with a cheaper power supply and case.

The 4GB ram is what you asked for, it was about as cheap as you can get 4GB of quality ram and IMO people tend to go overboard with ram which has fancy bling on it.

The case has some pretty good reviews and it was one of the best value cases for $70 with a PSU, its a personal thing and you could pretty much replace it with what you want. Its not brilliant, but its not bad. Theres an Antec case for $80 with a better PSU which has just come out on the market however.

Windows 64 is pretty self explanatory IMO, unless you can get it free you're better off buying the OEM version as my friends with copied versions are having heaps of problems keeping them activated.

I chose a 320GB HDD because I felt that you wanted to keep to the budget as much as possible. Also you'll be better off with two HDDs eventually as it will offer better performance if you're not always hitting the same drive all the time, a drive can only offer so much performance...

The Sony DVD burner was the cheapest, but its also a good brand!

The AsRock represents the best value motherboard I could see. It has 4 Ram slots and whilst it doesn't come with onboard video it doesn't need it as you're already getting a video card. It also had good reviews on Newegg.

Options.

Probably the best alternatives would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121356 Which is an HD 5750 for $115 after MIR

and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103702 which is a 2.9Ghz Athlon II for $100

Total that would be $215 after MIR compared to $275. So an overall saving of $60 which would be worth it if you're stretching your budgget too much with the original pricing I figured out. Overall the build would be about 10% cheaper but you would lose 20-30% of the performance so IMO its not as good unless you're not able to afford the $670 or so.



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WilliamWatts said:
markers said:
WilliamWatts said:

Okie dokie I had a lookie and this is what I came up with for roughly $670 incl shipping.

  • Phenom II 3.0Ghz 95W
  • HD 5770 from Saphire with 1GB GDDR5
  • 4GB Ram from Geil
  • Coolermaster case with 460W PSU
  • Windows 7 64bit
  • 320GB W/D HDD
  • Sony DVD burner.
  • AsRock AM 770 ATX Mobo with 4 ram slots.

In order here are links to them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.442704

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144266

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136074

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118039

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157176

How does that sound? If you want to you can trim the processor / video card back but I felt this offered the best value from what I could see.


looks good. can you explain the choices, like pros and cons over other things or something?

The Phenom II X4 3.0Ghz and the Saphire card were a bundle sale. Since you wanted to do relatively CPU intensive tasks with music editing/burning/excel/photoshop I started with the assumption that a strong CPU would be an excellent base for what you wanted to do with the computer. The Saphire 5770 was about the best price/performance graphics card which fit your requirements whilst still keeping within your budget. Furthermore since it doesn't draw too much power you could get away with a cheaper power supply and case.

The 4GB ram is what you asked for, it was about as cheap as you can get 4GB of quality ram and IMO people tend to go overboard with ram which has fancy bling on it.

The case has some pretty good reviews and it was one of the best value cases for $70 with a PSU, its a personal thing and you could pretty much replace it with what you want. Its not brilliant, but its not bad. Theres an Antec case for $80 with a better PSU which has just come out on the market however.

Windows 64 is pretty self explanatory IMO, unless you can get it free you're better off buying the OEM version as my friends with copied versions are having heaps of problems keeping them activated.

I chose a 320GB HDD because I felt that you wanted to keep to the budget as much as possible. Also you'll be better off with two HDDs eventually as it will offer better performance if you're not always hitting the same drive all the time, a drive can only offer so much performance...

The Sony DVD burner was the cheapest, but its also a good brand!

The AsRock represents the best value motherboard I could see. It has 4 Ram slots and whilst it doesn't come with onboard video it doesn't need it as you're already getting a video card. It also had good reviews on Newegg.

Options.

Probably the best alternatives would be:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121356 Which is an HD 5750 for $115 after MIR

and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103702 which is a 2.9Ghz Athlon II for $100

Total that would be $215 after MIR compared to $275. So an overall saving of $60 which would be worth it if you're stretching your budgget too much with the original pricing I figured out. Overall the build would be about 10% cheaper but you would lose 20-30% of the performance so IMO its not as good unless you're not able to afford the $670 or so.


alrighty the original bundle is what I am going with. I just wanted to hear something to make it sound like its a great deal :P



since building 2 systems, would i need to buy windows 7 twice?



markers said:

since building 2 systems, would i need to buy windows 7 twice?


No.  You are allowed to install a copy of windows on multiple computers.  I can't remember how many, but I'm sure it is stated in the user agreement. 

Also, if you are a student, you can often get really cheap deals on Windows.  I got my copy of Windows 7 professional for free through my school.



I think you will have to buy it twice... (unless you have access to an academic version or you know someone who does)



WilliamWatts said:

I think you will have to buy it twice... (unless you have access to an academic version or you know someone who does)


Blargh! I seriously doubt that, but you seem to know your shit. 

I am fairly certain that I am able to install my copy to 3 PC's without problems from Microdick.  That is an academic copy though. I can't imagine having to buy 2 copies of Windows 7 for 2 personal computers in my house.  That would be almost as ridiculous as spending $160 on a 60GB HDD. :P

I am fairly certain you only need 1 copy of Windows 7 though. Obviously do a little research before yor purcahse. 
Don't just listen to us drunk fools. 

Good luck