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Wow that's crazy. I would feel worse if they weren't such a corrupt and war torn country. I feel bad for the people who would have lost their homes though.



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SaviorX said:
I actually visited Haiti a few years ago for 3 weeks.
If you guys could just understand how bad it was BEFORE the quake, you'd realize how truly devastating it is now.

The country was already recovering from previous natural disasters; where I was staying, buildings were being rebuilt and streets repaved. Thousands of people roamed the capital in the dead of night; some sleeping outside. The one thing that stuck out in my mind was that the place has SO MUCH potential. If there was a sense of government anywhere near is structured as the greater powers of the world, it would be a great place.

I haven't been able to find contact with anyone over there I tried to call....Haiti is suffering enough, this kills. Electricity was taken away at random before. Things are all gone now..........

Sadly, Haiti has one of the most corrupt, anti-business governments in the Western hemisphere. If they worked on it, I agree - they could become a major carribian nation.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

Haiti is another failed nation just like Somalia. It's held together by UN troops and foreign aid.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

To us brazilians there is another tragedy:

Zilda Arns, a 75 year old woman founder of a major institution called "Pastoral da Criança" that helps millions of children in my country was giving a lecture in Port-au-Prince and died when the roff of the building she was in collapsed.

She was doing treemendous work not by simple assistencialism. Their group didnt just give aid. They taught mothers how to take care of children, better higyene., etc.

She made a difference on the lives of millions of people. About 240,000 volunteers work for her institution.



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Oh wow, that is tragic, Marcio.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.

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Won't they all just come back as zombies anyway?

On a serious note, my local charity Shelterbox are sending aid over.
http://www.shelterbox.org/news.php?id=230



twesterm said:

Wow, that's horrible. Random, but I found an odd quote from Obama in one of the articles:

President Obama called it a "cruel and incomprehensible" tragedy" and pledged swift U.S. support.


Cruel just seems an odd word to use since an earthquake can't really be cruel, malicious, or anything like that.

Keep in mind that despite people trying to paint him as a closet atheist or closet muslim... he's VERY christian.

He basically converted after being raised in an atheist household.  The average convert is dozens of times more religious then the average christian.  It's crazy.

I like that about him, mostly because his journey is a lot like mine.  My parents weren't atheists per say, but it was a fairly "atheist" household.  Religion never came up, never went to church... etc.



Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:

Wow, that's horrible. Random, but I found an odd quote from Obama in one of the articles:

President Obama called it a "cruel and incomprehensible" tragedy" and pledged swift U.S. support.


Cruel just seems an odd word to use since an earthquake can't really be cruel, malicious, or anything like that.

Keep in mind that despite people trying to paint him as a closet atheist or closet muslim... he's VERY christian.

He basically converted after being raised in an atheist household.  The average convert is dozens of times more religious then the average christian.  It's crazy.

I like that about him, mostly because his journey is a lot like mine.  My parents weren't atheists per say, but it was a fairly "atheist" household.  Religion never came up, never went to church... etc.

It is probably because the see the other side- life without faith and what might have been "wrong" with it. People born and raised under a certain religion may not understand that faithless aspect, and kind of "take it for granted" so to speak.



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SaviorX said:
Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:

Wow, that's horrible. Random, but I found an odd quote from Obama in one of the articles:

President Obama called it a "cruel and incomprehensible" tragedy" and pledged swift U.S. support.


Cruel just seems an odd word to use since an earthquake can't really be cruel, malicious, or anything like that.

Keep in mind that despite people trying to paint him as a closet atheist or closet muslim... he's VERY christian.

He basically converted after being raised in an atheist household.  The average convert is dozens of times more religious then the average christian.  It's crazy.

I like that about him, mostly because his journey is a lot like mine.  My parents weren't atheists per say, but it was a fairly "atheist" household.  Religion never came up, never went to church... etc.

It is probably because the see the other side- life without faith and what might have been "wrong" with it. People born and raised under a certain religion may not understand that faithless aspect, and kind of "take it for granted" so to speak.

I mean, i understand it.  it's just funny.  It goes for any convert though.  Talk to a muslim who went christian or vice versa and there MUCH more into it enthusiasm wise etc.

It just feels like a better way to get people to follow your religion... and follow it whole heartidly, by not pressuring them.

Though I suppose the downside is, there is the chance your child ends up picking atheism or a completly different religion and the ends up in your religions "bad place."

So i suppose that's why so few people leave faith in their children to find what's right for them.



marciosmg said:
To us brazilians there is another tragedy:

Zilda Arns, a 75 year old woman founder of a major institution called "Pastoral da Criança" that helps millions of children in my country was giving a lecture in Port-au-Prince and died when the roff of the building she was in collapsed.

She was doing treemendous work not by simple assistencialism. Their group didnt just give aid. They taught mothers how to take care of children, better higyene., etc.

She made a difference on the lives of millions of people. About 240,000 volunteers work for her institution.


Its really bad news, I live in Chile and the Chilean peace forces have been really participant in helping Haiti, there are currently 2 chilean women missing in Haiti, both were helping and one was the wife of a commander of the peace forces.

Its really sad that after many countries in the region have helped Haiti in the last years a tragedy like this comes and stomps on all that work.

Edit: its a Generals wife.