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Jackson5050 said:
Sephiroth357 said:

Kobe is overrated on defense. Kobe is overrated period. People talk about him being better than Jordan. Really?

Kobe is not better than LeBron. Fact: Look at the Lakers prior to the Gasol trade. Garbage.

Kobe is overrated much like the rest of the Lakers.

 

Yes, a long list composed of players you think are better than Kobe on defense. However, I never stated Kobe was a top-ten defender; I am confused as to why you are refuting something I did not state. I said he had the ability to be a top-ten defender, and that he was when he focused his energy on that end-such as the end of games. Yes, I agree Kobe is currently (slightly) overrated on defense. Understandably, he now has to reserve himself on defense to remain fresh on offense. However, Kobe is not overrated period. His place in history is commensurate with his accomplishments. He is a prolific scorer and a good defender. He deserves the praise he receives.

I was just listing some players with defensive recognition. 

Kobe is overrated. People have him in discussions against Jordan. Jordan is in a totally different league. Look at the guys accomplishments. Kobe's time is running out. When, and how will he get his DPOY? Where's the other 5 MVP trophies? And where's that other olympic ring?  Stats don't help Kobe in any way in this debate either.




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Best starting 5 in the NBA would be

Point Guard: Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard: Dwyane Wade

Small Forward: Kobe Bryant

Power Forward: Lebron James

Centre: Dwight Howard



Sephiroth357 said:

Kobe is overrated. People have him in discussions against Jordan. Jordan is in a totally different league. Look at the guys accomplishments. Kobe's time is running out. When, and how will he get his DPOY? Where's the other 5 MVP trophies? And where's that other olympic ring?  Stats don't help Kobe in any way in this debate either.

Yes, the people who place Kobe with Jordan overrate him, but I have not seen many people actually state that he is better/equal to MJ.



jonjonjon said:
Best starting 5 in the NBA would be

Point Guard: Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard: Dwyane Wade

Small Forward: Kobe Bryant

Power Forward: Lebron James

Centre: Dwight Howard


I like the way you think.


jonjonjon said:
Best starting 5 in the NBA would be

Point Guard: Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard: Dwyane Wade

Small Forward: Kobe Bryant

Power Forward: Lebron James

Centre: Dwight Howard

Umm, Kobe is a shooting guard and Lebron is a small forward



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stewroids said:
jonjonjon said:
Best starting 5 in the NBA would be

Point Guard: Derrick Rose

Shooting Guard: Dwyane Wade

Small Forward: Kobe Bryant

Power Forward: Lebron James

Centre: Dwight Howard

Umm, Kobe is a shooting guard and Lebron is a small forward

But Kobe can play the SF, and LeBron can play the PF.




Kobe isn't really big enough to play small forward but Lebron can play PF, and while Derick Rose shows a lot of good things he isn't no where near CP3 yet. lol




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supermario128 said:
Kobe isn't really big enough to play small forward but Lebron can play PF, and while Derick Rose shows a lot of good things he isn't no where near CP3 yet. lol

Kobe guards LeBron at the end of games. Kobe guards Pierce. Kobe guards Carmelo. Kobe can play the 3.

He's more athletic than Paul. Don't forget the size, and strength.




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CrimsonRevolver said:
I just have to say Stewroids is cool for saying Chris Bosh is the best PF.

I also said that. You have to be crazy to not think that.

then call me crazy. I think it's laughable to call Bosh the best PF today. If I were to build a team around a PF today, I would pick Duncan, Gasol and Dirk ahead of Bosh. (Heck I might even pick KG if he is not hurting so much) Duncan is still the best PF this year. He has better post moves than Bosh and is a better defender. The same can be said about Gasol. While Dirk might not be a better defender than Bosh, he is so much more dangerous offensively and worse matchup nightmare. Sure Bosh might be faster but he is just too soft in general. I always enjoy watching him playing again Sheed and how he sucks cause Sheed roughs him up. He only puts up good numbers cause Raptor made him the franchise player and we will never win a championship with him being our franchise player. Although they play different positions, I would rather have Brook Lopez as my franchise player.

OT:

Point Guard: Chris Paul (While Nash is enjoying a great year, Paul is just a better player right now even with the injury)

Shooting Guard: Kobe Bryant (when the game is on the line, he has the ability to play shut down defense. However, he doesn't really play at that level the whoel game though. Easily the best SG in the game today but I don't think he can ever surpass Jordan)

Small Forward: Lebron James (best player in the game right now. If Cavs can win this year with the roatsre they have now, it's a far bigger accomplishment with Kobe winning the championship with a stacked team.)

Power Forward: Tim Duncan (so effficient offensively this year while still playing all world defense. Just edge out Dirk)

Centre: Dwight Howard (Winning by default. Would have been a tough choice if Yao is healthy. While Howadr is a monster on boards, he is really lacking offesnvie moves and didn't make as much progress as anticipated)

 



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