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zexen_lowe on 08 January 2010

I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before




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SciFiBoy on 08 January 2010
zexen_lowe said:
I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before

being old is a mindset, if you want to you can Stay Young in your head till you die, of course, ideally, I would like to Live Forever



zexen_lowe on 08 January 2010
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:
I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before

being old is a mindset, if you want to you can Stay Young in your head till you die, of course, ideally, I would like to Live Forever


I wouldn't want to live forever, I think it would be boring.

And no, at least I wouldn't be able, seeing myself with white hair, curved, with prostate problems, hard of hearing, I wouldn't think of myself as young




Akvod on 08 January 2010
zexen_lowe said:
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:
I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before

being old is a mindset, if you want to you can Stay Young in your head till you die, of course, ideally, I would like to Live Forever


I wouldn't want to live forever, I think it would be boring.

And no, at least I wouldn't be able, seeing myself with white hair, curved, with prostate problems, hard of hearing, I wouldn't think of myself as young

I would like to live forever. The Universe is a huge place, there's so many countries, and so many changes that will occur. It'll be impossible to experience everything in one era.



Akvod on 08 January 2010

As for those talking about long term, like I said, I want to maximize my time feeling happy, so if I believe that I would only have a few years of happiness doing drugs, and then feel crappy for the rest of my life, I would rationally choose not to do drugs.



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zexen_lowe on 08 January 2010
Akvod said:
zexen_lowe said:
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:
I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before

being old is a mindset, if you want to you can Stay Young in your head till you die, of course, ideally, I would like to Live Forever


I wouldn't want to live forever, I think it would be boring.

And no, at least I wouldn't be able, seeing myself with white hair, curved, with prostate problems, hard of hearing, I wouldn't think of myself as young

I would like to live forever. The Universe is a huge place, there's so many countries, and so many changes that will occur. It'll be impossible to experience everything in one era.

In one life, maybe it's impossible. Maybe it's even impossible in two, three, bur forever? There's always a limit of things you can do. Basically, you're asking for your life to be endless in a universe that doesn't offer endless possibilities, that may offer a lot more than we can count, but there's always a limit. You're gonna get bored, sooner or later




c0rd on 08 January 2010
Akvod said:

I want to practise hedonism restricted by morality. After doing the right thing, the next thing on my priority is to do whatever would make me the most happy.

Stuff that could make me happy: Games, good food, masturbation, sex (?), moderate ammounts of alcohol, having a healthy body, lack of stress, enough money, family (?), etc.

It should all be seen in terms of cost-benefit and opportunity cost. If I discover that I would actually be happier divorcing and focusing on my work, then I should do so. If I discover I'm happier being a drug addict, then I should do so.

Some of you may disagree and say "That's outrageous! Being [homeless, poor, fat, etc] is crappy!". But that's after I consider which one would make me happier. If I end up being more unhappy being homeless, then that's simply an error in judgement, not an error in the process.

 

After reading Ecclesiastes, I'm kinda more confident in this path. I shouldn't be building up wealth just for the sake of it, or because society tells me to do it, but only if I actually get some kind of joy or pleasure from doing so.

 

All hapiness, orgasms, pleasure, etc are the same, for those few seconds, we feel good. So my plan is to just maximize the percentage of my lifetime that I am feeling this euphoria. So far it's been 18 out of 20? 30? 40? 50? 60? 70? 80? (Kinda depressing, because even if I live up to a 100 years old, for 20%) years that I feel like shit. So I'm not doing a very good job at it =/

 

Pleasure and hedonism has been seen as a negative thing, especially by most religious ideologies and some philosophers. So I was curious what you guys follow.

 

I lol'd at the (?)'s, unsure about it I guess? I won't comment on the first, but I'm almost sure I'll have none of the second...

Anyway, I'm pretty much the same, I'm amazed at how many people seemingly agree with this on the internet. Although, I guess I only started actually thinking about philosophy stuff relatively recently. I've been trying to influence people I know to drop social stigmas and such as well, with mixed results...

I suppose I had to sort shit out in my head when starting at a state like Gnac's... so I think I've come a long way. (best of luck to you on that, btw~)

I must say, I almost feel like an idiot discovering this so late (seemingly). I mean, you're 18?



Akvod on 08 January 2010
c0rd said:
Akvod said:

I want to practise hedonism restricted by morality. After doing the right thing, the next thing on my priority is to do whatever would make me the most happy.

Stuff that could make me happy: Games, good food, masturbation, sex (?), moderate ammounts of alcohol, having a healthy body, lack of stress, enough money, family (?), etc.

It should all be seen in terms of cost-benefit and opportunity cost. If I discover that I would actually be happier divorcing and focusing on my work, then I should do so. If I discover I'm happier being a drug addict, then I should do so.

Some of you may disagree and say "That's outrageous! Being [homeless, poor, fat, etc] is crappy!". But that's after I consider which one would make me happier. If I end up being more unhappy being homeless, then that's simply an error in judgement, not an error in the process.

 

After reading Ecclesiastes, I'm kinda more confident in this path. I shouldn't be building up wealth just for the sake of it, or because society tells me to do it, but only if I actually get some kind of joy or pleasure from doing so.

 

All hapiness, orgasms, pleasure, etc are the same, for those few seconds, we feel good. So my plan is to just maximize the percentage of my lifetime that I am feeling this euphoria. So far it's been 18 out of 20? 30? 40? 50? 60? 70? 80? (Kinda depressing, because even if I live up to a 100 years old, for 20%) years that I feel like shit. So I'm not doing a very good job at it =/

 

Pleasure and hedonism has been seen as a negative thing, especially by most religious ideologies and some philosophers. So I was curious what you guys follow.

 

I lol'd at the (?)'s, unsure about it I guess? I won't comment on the first, but I'm almost sure I'll have none of the second...

Anyway, I'm pretty much the same, I'm amazed at how many people seemingly agree with this on the internet. Although, I guess I only started actually thinking about philosophy stuff relatively recently. I've been trying to influence people I know to drop social stigmas and such as well, with mixed results...

I suppose I had to sort shit out in my head when starting at a state like Gnac's... so I think I've come a long way. (best of luck to you on that, btw~)

I must say, I almost feel like an idiot discovering this so late (seemingly). I mean, you're 18?

Yeah. But remember, this is just an ideal, and I admit that I'm doing a real bad job at doing it. So it's easy to be all high and mighty and say "drop social stigma" and pursue happiness, but it's hard to actually do it.

But I'm just trying to set the ideal out there so that I can then try to drive towards it. First step is a first step.



Akvod on 08 January 2010
zexen_lowe said:
Akvod said:
zexen_lowe said:
SciFiBoy said:
zexen_lowe said:
I try to get enjoyment of my life while at the same time try to assure that I'll have enjoyment in my future, yet I try to never overwork myself more than necessary. So, in essence, my goal in life is to maximize my enjoyment across all my life with the least possible effort. It would be much easier if I ever won the lottery

I don't care about changing the world or anything like that, I'd love to be powerful and never have to do anything, but I know it's not going to happen, so I just aim at having a comfortable life as devoid as stress as possible

Oh, and I don't wanna get old. And I don't care for death, in fact, sometimes I think I'd like death to happen to me not when I'm very old but before

being old is a mindset, if you want to you can Stay Young in your head till you die, of course, ideally, I would like to Live Forever


I wouldn't want to live forever, I think it would be boring.

And no, at least I wouldn't be able, seeing myself with white hair, curved, with prostate problems, hard of hearing, I wouldn't think of myself as young

I would like to live forever. The Universe is a huge place, there's so many countries, and so many changes that will occur. It'll be impossible to experience everything in one era.

In one life, maybe it's impossible. Maybe it's even impossible in two, three, bur forever? There's always a limit of things you can do. Basically, you're asking for your life to be endless in a universe that doesn't offer endless possibilities, that may offer a lot more than we can count, but there's always a limit. You're gonna get bored, sooner or later

Would you consider boredom to be painful or negative?

Let's just think this in a really simplistic manner.

Lets say there are positive and negative conscious experience. Can there ever be a neutral one?

And I really find it hard to be completely bored, even if it is infinity. You're assuming that I would never forget things. But if the nature of the immortality was me eventually forgetting stuff, then I should be able to enjoy the same things.

I would also rather be bored and lying on a nice grassy hill with some breeze than having absolute oblivion, not even darkness, but just nothing.



Chairman-Mao on 08 January 2010

Make money, get married, have kids, die.