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Akvod: Would she have had as much fun if the old Mario games were not of great quality? I don't buy sequels for games that I don't remember being good.

Just wanted to add that. Leaving now because the thread seems like it's going to degenerate into something objectifying. Good night.



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BoleroOfFire said:
Akvod: Would she have had as much fun if the old Mario games were not of great quality? I don't buy sequels for games that I don't remember being good.

Just wanted to add that. Leaving now because the thread seems like it's going to degenerate into something objectifying. Good night.

If you're leaving the thread then I have no reason to respond, since it'll be the same as responding to nobody or having a monologue with myself O.o

 

Good night though, hope you have no hard feelings over our disagreement. But I do think I know my own mother more than you do XD



Akvod said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^If it was purely nostalgia Akvod, then the 3D Marios would be selling at similar rates, but its not, people know 2D Mario is quality.

@psrock, its easy to see quality, I knew NSMB Wii would be amazing when I saw the gameplay videos, and I was not disappointed when i played it

So, Akvod's mom was surfing the internet looking for gameplay of NSMB so she can make up her mind on the quality of a Mario game.

 

 

He already said she saw it being played in the store, so she didn't need to surf the net, she saw it being played live.

 

 @Akvod, no originally you said nostalgia and local mulitplayer, and if it was just nostalgia, then 3D mario would have sold as well, but its not nostalgia, its the gameplay and the quality of it that attracted your mother, like you said she saw it being played

 

 

Dude my mom has not played any games for at least a decade. She was attracted to this game specificly because of nostalgia and Mario being the only game she played regularly in the past. If she was attracted to quality she would have been buying other games as well for the last decade.

You're assuming she found other games to be of quality, a lot of people haven't gamed in decades, because the games of recent years haven't appealed to them.  Sorry its not nostalgia, its finding a game that she considered quality and that appealed to her.  Just because Mario is the game that appealed to her in the past doesn't mean its nostalgia, but that she found mario gameplay to be quality, to appeal to her, and now she found more Mario that appealed and was quality.



 

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Avinash_Tyagi said:
Akvod said:
I think nostalgia and the local multiplayer would actually attract a lot of customers.

Nostalgia has little to do with the sales, its selling because its one of the best games ever

i laugh when someone says its one of the best games ever, this is completed opinionated and should not be stated as a fact...it sold well because its a household name, mario is one of those game characters even grandparents know about. Halo, GT, FF, and GTA are other examples of games that will sell well even if the name is pasted on a load of crap. NSMB did not sell well because its one of the best games ever (imo not even close to the best game ever btw), it sold well because it had the mario brothers attached to it and brought the same gameplay as the one on the DS. 



Yeah, NSMB really showed those 2 or 3 people who doubted it.



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I knew this would be huge, I think I said 16 million total, it might even pass that. I mean its a brand new 2D Mario title, with local player! How could it not do well? And Japan has always liked 2D Mario more than 3D, the sales show that.




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Akvod said:
BoleroOfFire said:
Akvod: Would she have had as much fun if the old Mario games were not of great quality? I don't buy sequels for games that I don't remember being good.

Just wanted to add that. Leaving now because the thread seems like it's going to degenerate into something objectifying. Good night.

If you're leaving the thread then I have no reason to respond, since it'll be the same as responding to nobody or having a monologue with myself O.o

 

Good night though, hope you have no hard feelings over our disagreement. But I do think I know my own mother more than you do XD

you may know your mom better, but its not like the words "i got NSMBWii because of nostalgia and multiplayer" came from HER mouth, did it. leave it, its not like you can prove X% of NSMBWii owners got it for Y reason, nor can anyone else prove the opposite.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Akvod said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^If it was purely nostalgia Akvod, then the 3D Marios would be selling at similar rates, but its not, people know 2D Mario is quality.

@psrock, its easy to see quality, I knew NSMB Wii would be amazing when I saw the gameplay videos, and I was not disappointed when i played it

So, Akvod's mom was surfing the internet looking for gameplay of NSMB so she can make up her mind on the quality of a Mario game.

 

 

He already said she saw it being played in the store, so she didn't need to surf the net, she saw it being played live.

 

 @Akvod, no originally you said nostalgia and local mulitplayer, and if it was just nostalgia, then 3D mario would have sold as well, but its not nostalgia, its the gameplay and the quality of it that attracted your mother, like you said she saw it being played

 

 

Dude my mom has not played any games for at least a decade. She was attracted to this game specificly because of nostalgia and Mario being the only game she played regularly in the past. If she was attracted to quality she would have been buying other games as well for the last decade.

You're assuming she found other games to be of quality, a lot of people haven't gamed in decades, because the games of recent years haven't appealed to them.  Sorry its not nostalgia, its finding a game that she considered quality and that appealed to her.  Just because Mario is the game that appealed to her in the past doesn't mean its nostalgia, but that she found mario gameplay to be quality, to appeal to her, and now she found more Mario that appealed and was quality.

Then why did she not play any other Mario games SNES and onwards? Why did she not play Mario 64 or Galaxy?

Obviously she thought that the game would be fun and so you can somewhat argue that she bought it for quality. But that's a very weak and unsatisfying because she didn't check the reviews at all, and would have probably bought it if it got bad reviews anyway.

She was appealed by the fact that she hasn't played Mario in a while, and that modern games are simply so fucking complex and confusing (She hated analog sticks for LBP and the realistic physics). She just wanted to relive the times in her twenties when she would stay up until AM and play Mario.



BTSaga said:
Akvod said:
BoleroOfFire said:
Akvod: Would she have had as much fun if the old Mario games were not of great quality? I don't buy sequels for games that I don't remember being good.

Just wanted to add that. Leaving now because the thread seems like it's going to degenerate into something objectifying. Good night.

If you're leaving the thread then I have no reason to respond, since it'll be the same as responding to nobody or having a monologue with myself O.o

 

Good night though, hope you have no hard feelings over our disagreement. But I do think I know my own mother more than you do XD

you may know your mom better, but its not like the words "i got NSMBWii because of nostalgia and multiplayer" came from HER mouth, did it. leave it, its not like you can prove X% of NSMBWii owners got it for Y reason, nor can anyone else prove the opposite.

I don't think my mom's a completely unique case. I said (or at least I hope I said) SOME people. I wanted to get the game because of quality, not out of nostalgia.

And I'm basing my assessment on the fact that I know my mom was constantly talking and asking about Mario and if it's like the old games, and my dad's nightmare stories of mom playing her eyes out when she was younger. Jesus fucking christ, even if I am wrong about my own mother, can you guys agree with me that some people, who aren't particularly interested in gaming, bought the game, and possibly the system because of nostalgia?

I really don't see why there's so much opposition against me.



Akvod said:
BTSaga said:
Akvod said:
BoleroOfFire said:
Akvod: Would she have had as much fun if the old Mario games were not of great quality? I don't buy sequels for games that I don't remember being good.

Just wanted to add that. Leaving now because the thread seems like it's going to degenerate into something objectifying. Good night.

If you're leaving the thread then I have no reason to respond, since it'll be the same as responding to nobody or having a monologue with myself O.o

 

Good night though, hope you have no hard feelings over our disagreement. But I do think I know my own mother more than you do XD

you may know your mom better, but its not like the words "i got NSMBWii because of nostalgia and multiplayer" came from HER mouth, did it. leave it, its not like you can prove X% of NSMBWii owners got it for Y reason, nor can anyone else prove the opposite.

I don't think my mom's a completely unique case. I said (or at least I hope I said) SOME people. I wanted to get the game because of quality, not out of nostalgia.

And I'm basing my assessment on the fact that I know my mom was constantly talking and asking about Mario and if it's like the old games, and my dad's nightmare stories of mom playing her eyes out when she was younger. Jesus fucking christ, even if I am wrong about my own mother, can you guys agree with me that some people, who aren't particularly interested in gaming, bought the game, and possibly the system because of nostalgia?

I really don't see why there's so much opposition against me.

@the last sentence

probably cause youre trying to explain something as big as WW sales with something as small as your mom, who no one here knows