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I have seen this movie two times. I think the James Cameron's imagination is really very very wonderful. It seems really a new world, the nature, animals and everything which is in the movie is quite amazing. I would not get bore if i would see the movie again.



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HappySqurriel said:

I found Avatar pretty ironic in that they spent so much time and money developing impressive 3D visuals and made a movie with flat one-dimensional characters; a movie where there was an amazing effort to present new unique environments for a generic cliché filled story.

No. What I find most impressive is how when you adjust for inflation, many other films beat Avatar's box office gross. And it also has a cliched story. 

Seriously, I have no problem with criticism for the movie, but you're just using the lowest, most easy form of trolling, and I've come to expect more from you (since you've been around a long and you're very intelligent).



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
HappySqurriel said:

I found Avatar pretty ironic in that they spent so much time and money developing impressive 3D visuals and made a movie with flat one-dimensional characters; a movie where there was an amazing effort to present new unique environments for a generic cliché filled story.

No. What I find most impressive is how when you adjust for inflation, many other films beat Avatar's box office gross. And it also has a cliched story. 

Seriously, I have no problem with criticism for the movie, but you're just using the lowest, most easy form of trolling, and I've come to expect more from you (since you've been around a long and you're very intelligent).

Both the historical story and Disney’s adaptation of Pocahontas have a very similar story line as Avatar does, and one of the more dramatic differences between Disney’s adaptation and Avatar is that Disney avoids the "Super-Good vs. Baby-Eating Evil" approach to the conflict that James Cameron takes with Avatar. It is entirely acceptable to take a well known story and change the setting to make it relevant, and this has been done by countless writers in the past; but when you do it with more simplistic characters and conflict than a movie which has a primary target of young children you can’t say that it has added a lot of depth to the characters or the story. It is the simplified one-sided view of the conflict that James Cameron takes that makes all the characters such caricatures; its very difficult to make a character deep and interesting if they have to be perfectly good or perfectly evil to fill their role in the plot.

 

You might not like my view of the movie, but it is just as valid of a view as any other view.



HappySqurriel said:
MontanaHatchet said:
HappySqurriel said:

I found Avatar pretty ironic in that they spent so much time and money developing impressive 3D visuals and made a movie with flat one-dimensional characters; a movie where there was an amazing effort to present new unique environments for a generic cliché filled story.

No. What I find most impressive is how when you adjust for inflation, many other films beat Avatar's box office gross. And it also has a cliched story. 

Seriously, I have no problem with criticism for the movie, but you're just using the lowest, most easy form of trolling, and I've come to expect more from you (since you've been around a long and you're very intelligent).

Both the historical story and Disney’s adaptation of Pocahontas have a very similar story line as Avatar does, and one of the more dramatic differences between Disney’s adaptation and Avatar is that Disney avoids the "Super-Good vs. Baby-Eating Evil" approach to the conflict that James Cameron takes with Avatar. It is entirely acceptable to take a well known story and change the setting to make it relevant, and this has been done by countless writers in the past; but when you do it with more simplistic characters and conflict than a movie which has a primary target of young children you can’t say that it has added a lot of depth to the characters or the story. It is the simplified one-sided view of the conflict that James Cameron takes that makes all the characters such caricatures; its very difficult to make a character deep and interesting if they have to be perfectly good or perfectly evil to fill their role in the plot.

 

You might not like my view of the movie, but it is just as valid of a view as any other view.

Yes, I've heard all of this a thousand times before. And I don't disagree at all. It didn't have a very original plot, characters, etc. I agree completely. That's not what I'm upset about. I'm upset that you just hit and run troll the movie. If you look at Rocketpig and Reasonable, they reasonably critique the movies and analyze its flaws. The two major posts I've seen you make about this movie are that its nowhere near the top grossing film when adjusted for inflation (in a thread about its box office record), and another making quite possibly the oldest trolling line for this movie in a thread praising it (for the most part). I have no problems with an opinion, just trolling. Your second post here is actually much better, since you took time to analyze the film's flaws instead of making a troll post straight out of a Gamefaqs message board.



 

 

I'm not really sure, but I think that the adjusted to inflation that you are referring to is only domestic numbers. The worldwide figures currently places Star wars episode 4 at 4 billion, then Titanic at 2 billion, and finally avatar at 1.8 billion



                                  

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