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thx1139 said:
Xelloss said:
thx1139 said:
The only people that try to negate games that are on PC and a Console as not exclusive are fanboys. Analysts and Industry all view games on a PC and a Console as different markets.

Not to mention PC gaming market is much smaller. I for one hate to play games with keyboard and mouse.


Sorry, incorrect. On both fronts. PC market is not smaller, it has different and more fragmented interests along with a much larger library of games.

And I am not sure what "system" I would be a fanboy of, since even though im to lazy to enter all of them on my profile, 96% of my games are on PC. Maybe a PC fanboy? But hmm... I will be playing Mass Effect 2 at the same time you will be, except with much better GFX and performance and control scheme...

Its like a wierd time paradox... ME2 is an Xbox exclusive, yet playable in superior form outside of Xbox.....

Really..When was the last time NPD or Pachter included PC sales in reports/articles?  What was the report of PC sales of Modern Warfare 2? If that isnt a smaller market than I dont know what is.  Yes it has other segments like MMORPG and flash based minigames, but those arent what arent what games are going on both the console and the PC platforms.

As for Mass Effect 2 well I will be playing it from my nice lovely leather couch on a 55 inch LED display with surround sound system. Rather than on my 15 inch laptop.

I have a bad feeling this thread is going to turn into a PC vs. consoles thread...



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thx1139 said:
Xelloss said:
thx1139 said:
The only people that try to negate games that are on PC and a Console as not exclusive are fanboys. Analysts and Industry all view games on a PC and a Console as different markets.

Not to mention PC gaming market is much smaller. I for one hate to play games with keyboard and mouse.


Sorry, incorrect. On both fronts. PC market is not smaller, it has different and more fragmented interests along with a much larger library of games.

And I am not sure what "system" I would be a fanboy of, since even though im to lazy to enter all of them on my profile, 96% of my games are on PC. Maybe a PC fanboy? But hmm... I will be playing Mass Effect 2 at the same time you will be, except with much better GFX and performance and control scheme...

Its like a wierd time paradox... ME2 is an Xbox exclusive, yet playable in superior form outside of Xbox.....

Really..When was the last time NPD or Pachter included PC sales in reports/articles?  What was the report of PC sales of Modern Warfare 2? If that isnt a smaller market than I dont know what is.  Yes it has other segments like MMORPG and flash based minigames, but those arent what arent what games are going on both the console and the PC platforms.

As for Mass Effect 2 well I will be playing it from my nice lovely leather couch on a 55 inch LED display with surround sound system. Rather than on my 15 inch laptop.

Man living in ignorance must be delightful for you, First, you can hook up a PC to any Good TV out there now thus he can play on his couch or wherever and probably does, and Second, if you can't afford anything better than a 15 inch laptop you don't have to knock others who have better setups.



thx1139 said:
Xelloss said:
thx1139 said:
The only people that try to negate games that are on PC and a Console as not exclusive are fanboys. Analysts and Industry all view games on a PC and a Console as different markets.

Not to mention PC gaming market is much smaller. I for one hate to play games with keyboard and mouse.


Sorry, incorrect. On both fronts. PC market is not smaller, it has different and more fragmented interests along with a much larger library of games.

And I am not sure what "system" I would be a fanboy of, since even though im to lazy to enter all of them on my profile, 96% of my games are on PC. Maybe a PC fanboy? But hmm... I will be playing Mass Effect 2 at the same time you will be, except with much better GFX and performance and control scheme...

Its like a wierd time paradox... ME2 is an Xbox exclusive, yet playable in superior form outside of Xbox.....

Really..When was the last time NPD or Pachter included PC sales in reports/articles?  What was the report of PC sales of Modern Warfare 2? If that isnt a smaller market than I dont know what is.  Yes it has other segments like MMORPG and flash based minigames, but those arent what arent what games are going on both the console and the PC platforms.

As for Mass Effect 2 well I will be playing it from my nice lovely leather couch on a 55 inch LED display with surround sound system. Rather than on my 15 inch laptop.

 

 So, my playing ME2 @ superior GFX will not be a reality, because NPD and Pachter do not report on it?

 The reason NPD doesnt report PC is simple : they cant. Digital distro is to large, and they have no way to get info. Ok, so Pachter... guess some analyst? And? I can think of 1000 possible reasons.

 Seriously though, a silly statement is a silly statement. You made a pretty silly statement. No sweat off my back though.

 

 P.S. I will be playing in 1080p on a 32" on my desk , my picture will look nice and sharp. Hope you dont sit too close to that 55" in 720p

 



Auron said:

Man living in ignorance must be delightful for you, First, you can hook up a PC to any Good TV out there now thus he can play on his couch or wherever and probably does, and Second, if you can't afford anything better than a 15 inch laptop you don't have to knock others who have better setups.

Why would you want a anything bigger than a 15in laptop. That is huge o.0



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scat398 said:
I'm glad that I get the option to buy a game on my 360 or my pc and I'm glad ms gives me that option. I picked up dragon age for the pc, but I'll be getting mass effect 2 for the 360.

Also, glad to have you back legend that last was just wrong.

Out of curiosity is there any particular reason you are buying ME on 360 instead of PC? I'm assuming they'll fix the issues the first ME had on 360 that were patched out of the cleaned up PC version, so it will probably be just as good on either platform. Just wondering if there was any particular reason you wanted it on 360. 

PS: It's cool of Bioware to let you use your Blood Dragon Armor code from Dragon Age in any version of Mass Effect, regardless of what platform you bought Dragon Age on.



naznatips said:
scat398 said:
I'm glad that I get the option to buy a game on my 360 or my pc and I'm glad ms gives me that option. I picked up dragon age for the pc, but I'll be getting mass effect 2 for the 360.

Also, glad to have you back legend that last was just wrong.

Out of curiosity is there any particular reason you are buying ME on 360 instead of PC? I'm assuming they'll fix the issues the first ME had on 360 that were patched out of the cleaned up PC version, so it will probably be just as good on either platform. Just wondering if there was any particular reason you wanted it on 360. 

PS: It's cool of Bioware to let you use your Blood Dragon Armor code from Dragon Age in any version of Mass Effect, regardless of what platform you bought Dragon Age on.

I'm guessing it is because he played the first on the 360, and he wants to transfer his character



In the simplest language: if you don't need an Xbox to play a given game, it's not an Xbox "exclusive."

I really don't see what the debate is there.

As for ME2, the only reason I'd buy the Xbox version over the Windows version is if I wanted to port my game saves over.

Valid reason, but I'd still rather play ME2 on a gaming PC on the big screen at 1920x1080/60fps+ from the couch, with either an Xbox controller or M/KB; whichever I felt like. That's if I even bother to get the game at all.

The Xbox will just have to wait for Alan Wake.



I would prefer more pc exclusives. As everyone knows the consoles hold the pc back.



 

 

In the end, it all depends on the concept you're talking about.. When arguing exclusives, it needs to be clear what the standpoint is.

Usually, it's about the CONSOLE war.. The PS3 vs the X360. The PC is not a console and simply doesn't take part in the console war. The Wii is obviously a different audience so I left that one out.

A)
From this perspective, it's simply not relevant if a game is on the pc or not. But when talking about the console war, people like to say "The X360 has no exclusives because the games are on pc as well, and therefore the PS3 beats the X360". Then I ask myself, where is the PC then? Is the PS3 also better than that because it also has no exclusives since you can play them all on your X360 too? That it's on the PC is not relevant, because again, you're talking about the CONSOLE war. In this case, you have only two candidates, the PS3 and the X360, and, in this case, whether it's on the PC or not, they are simply X360 exclusives, because the PS3 does not have them. Two candidates, one down, one left, therefore, exclusive. Period.

B)
It can be viewed from a different perspective as well. If you're looking on ALL the options to buy your games and you have a pc that can run them, then the games on the X360 and the PC are not exclusives. But in this case, you can not say that the PS3 is beating the X360 because it has more exclusives, and at the same time praise the PC, while the games on the PC can be played on the X360 as well.. Because you are then praising one platform (PC), and bashing the other (X360), for the exact same thing that they have in common, and thus you are contradicting yourself. You can only argue that you don't need an X360 to play the game, but that does not transfer into making the PS3 better because of more exclusives, because you are then back at perspective A.

You either look at all 3 without praising/bashing any of those, or you simply forget the PC completely.



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