You can hope but your system is basically set up for everybody except the big two to fail. You can hardly hope that the big two will give up their monopoly on politics.

You can hope but your system is basically set up for everybody except the big two to fail. You can hardly hope that the big two will give up their monopoly on politics.

CommonMan said:
But, we do have the structure in place to blow the 2 party system open, and grass roots campaigns can actually make a difference. My hope is that enough Mafoo's out there get sick and tired of th bi-partisan crap that has run this damned country for way too long (both of the big parties suck, no doubt) that they do somthing about it. I can hope right? |
Every member of Congress and the President takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, and then every one of the breaks it every day.
There is something written into out form of government designed to take care of what we have today, and that's our duty to overthrow it. As a great believer in what America stands for, it is my obligation to overthrow the US government.
I don't feel like dying however, so I will take the coward's way out, and just go somewhere else.
Being I am not strong enough to take that approach, I have no options left to fix the US. Our for fathers expected this day to come, and they also expected the people of the US to have enough balls to do something about it.
They put more faith in us then they should have, it seems.
| thanny said: Well i live on the East coast of Australia... and a few things: |
Melbourne has 4 million people in it. Are there smaller towns around it you would recommend looking into? Also, I am a software developer. How is work down there in that field?
| mrstickball said: @Rath - Australia is less corrupt than America, and businesses are freer. (1) To ding 'em, their internet laws are bad, as well as their firearms laws. The place I am interested in is Costa Rica. They jumped 2.2 points in Heritage's (2) Freedom Index in 2009. |
1-WRONG!
Big business is what corrupted the U.S. in the first place.
2-Heritage? You mean "The Heritage foundation"? (Just) One of the front groups that the totally insane rightwingnut heirs to the "John Birch Society" Koch brothers founded?
If the American people truly knew what mischief old money was causing, there would be a 90% inheritance tax of estates over five million dollars.
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TheRealMafoo said:
For 200 years, the US used to stand for something. I want to live in the country that follows those views. When I was born, the US was the best country in the world with respect to that. Not anymore. If our government wants us to follow in Europe's footsteps then fine. I just don't wish to go there. I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 (and add in civil rights). That country, I think is Australia. It's not the US, and nothing in washington at the moment tells me it ever will be. |
We all know how that decade ended. 
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We all know how that decade ended. |
We know how... but amusingly nobody knows why.
I believe the most commonly believed theory among economists currently is debt deflation cause by the Federal Reserve stepping in and trying to fix a regular depression. Forcing a "great" depression.
The theory being that depressions are natural since the world moves in cycles, however being part of a natural depression isn't great for your political life, so you try your best to postpone it... and just make matters worse.
Things start slowing down, so the fed lowers interest rates... so more people invest, and more people... however these people shouldn't be investing and take risks they probably shouldn't... and bam. You've got a big problem.

Have fun with just about every wild animal that has the capacity to kill you.
TheRealMafoo said:
Some of it is political beliefs about how a country should be run, but most of it is just based on horrific incompetence at the top (and this is any party of late). Not to drag this into a huge political debate, but the single biggest issue I see with the US right now, is income vs. expense. For the last 60 years or so, we have been spending money at a rate we could not sustain. The way we got away with it, was raising GDP. Yea, we ran up a huge debt, but each year we made so much more money than the last year, we could feed that dept. Those years are over, and yet we still spend like we are living in them. Right now, as a nation, we need to cut spending by 1/3, and if we did that, it would be a good start. What do we do? We double spending, and put us on a course to spend that way for years. In the end, we will have to print a lot of money to get out of this. What that means, is the 80K a year I make today, in 10 years will have the spending power of 60K. I do not want to spend the rest of my life in decline because the people I in trust to maintain my country are grossly incompetent to do so. Being I have no power to replace the people in my government with people who know what they are doing, then next best thing is to replace the government that resides over me. Someone made a comment about me not wanting to pay taxes, and that’s completely wrong. I pay over 40K a year in taxes, and would not mind paying that money if I thought it went to what it should go to. I would guess 5K of that 40K is well spent, and the other 35K is pissed away. I work hard for that money, and the people I in trust that effort with (my government), needs to do a better job with it. So I don’t hate America, I am just tired of working for them. If the Australian government will do a better job with my effort, I would be much happier giving it to them. And I am serious by the way. I am planning on moving somewhere that is not on a path for total failure. |
That actually started with Ronald Dickhead Reagan. Trickle down (piss on the working class) economics: cut taxes on the wealthy, raise them on the people who actually do the work (THIS I KNOW AS FACT!) and spend like a drunken sailor on useless defense contracts (redistribution of wealth from the working class to the obnoxiously rich).
What you need to realise is that you've been confused by the plutocrats, they're playing you like a fiddle and you're singing their tune.
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Kasz216 said:
We know how... but amusingly nobody knows why. I believe the most commonly believed theory among economists currently is debt deflation cause by the Federal Reserve stepping in and trying to fix a regular depression. Forcing a "great" depression. The theory being that depressions are natural since the world moves in cycles, however being part of a natural depression isn't great for your political life, so you try your best to postpone it... and just make matters worse. Things start slowing down, so the fed lowers interest rates... so more people invest, and more people... however these people shouldn't be investing and take risks they probably shouldn't... and bam. You've got a big problem. |
Anybody who knows what they're talking about will tell you it was caused by:
WOW, most of that sounds familliar!
The dismantling of the safeguards that were put into place after the First Great Republican Depression was started by Ronald Dickhead Reagan and completed by that dumbass jackoff phoney prick Clinton.
The 21st Century: The New Feudal Age?
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@Kasz. Thats the monetarist explanation.
There are other explanations favoured by other schools of economists, but yeah monetarist has been the major one for several decades. Though it must be said, there is a huge Keynesian revival at the moment, this current crisis has caused a bit of a rethink.
