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You can hope but your system is basically set up for everybody except the big two to fail. You can hardly hope that the big two will give up their monopoly on politics.



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CommonMan said:
Rath said:

@Common. One of the main problems with that great thing about your country is that you have two choices, so when you kick one shitty government out you end up with the other shitty government in. You never get to vote smaller parties into coalition when you lose faith in the big parties, it really balances out far better and makes the big parties less bloated and corrupt. Its disadvantage is you end up with some rather unstable coalitions occasionally.

Politically I believe that Australia does have a far better system (PR is flawed, but nowhere near as flawed as what you have).

But, we do have the structure in place to blow the 2 party system open, and grass roots campaigns can actually make a difference. My hope is that enough Mafoo's out there get sick and tired of th bi-partisan crap that has run this damned country for way too long (both of the big parties suck, no doubt) that they do somthing about it. I can hope right?

Every member of Congress and the President takes an oath to uphold the Constitution, and then every one of the breaks it every day.

There is something written into out form of government designed to take care of what we have today, and that's our duty to overthrow it. As a great believer in what America stands for, it is my obligation to overthrow the US government.

I don't feel like dying however, so I will take the coward's way out, and just go somewhere else.

Being I am not strong enough to take that approach, I have no options left to fix the US. Our for fathers expected this day to come, and they also expected the people of the US to have enough balls to do something about it.

They put more faith in us then they should have, it seems.



thanny said:

Well i live on the East coast of Australia... and a few things:
-The weather is no where near as bad as everyone makes it out to be. 90-something % of the whole population lives near the coast where it is cooler... The harshest weather is in the outback where you wouldnt be moving anyway. As for the UV, its only a problem between 11 and 3 in the summer months... and you can just put on sunscreen. Its no where near as bad as some people here are making it out to be!
-There are, of course, some very hot days in summer that get 40+ degrees, but overall the weather is very pleasant. Depending on where you live of course, even winter is comfortable to be outside in, and there are many sunny days.
-Best beaches in the world
-Games are generally more expensive taking into consideration conversion rates of currencies. However JB-HiFi sell for far less then every other retailer, and they are starting to dominate the market so other retailers may be forced to start reducing prices
-Currently in the Commonwealth but may become a republic at some stage in the future. The latest referendum for becoming a republic got turned down quite convincingly... When Charles however, becomes king, it may be a different story
-in my *personal* opinion the government currently is pretty good. any government could be better but im very happy with the way the country is being run at the moment
-probably the worst thing in my opinion is the public transport.... Most cities, with the possible exception of Melbourne, have public transport systems that are not up to par with other major world cities. Still, they are bearable.

I love living in Australia, and i doubt i would ever want to live anywhere else... I personally recommend either Melbourne or the Hunter valley/Central coast in NSW. Melbourne constantly tops lists of the most livable and best cities in the world, and the Hunter valley/central coast regions are absolutely beautiful if you would rather live in a more layed back and relaxing place.
:)

Melbourne has 4 million people in it. Are there smaller towns around it you would recommend looking into? Also, I am a software developer. How is work down there in that field?



mrstickball said:
@Rath -

Australia is less corrupt than America, and businesses are freer. (1)

To ding 'em, their internet laws are bad, as well as their firearms laws.

The place I am interested in is Costa Rica. They jumped 2.2 points in Heritage's (2) Freedom Index in 2009.

1-WRONG!

Big business is what corrupted the U.S. in the first place.

2-Heritage?  You mean "The Heritage foundation"?  (Just) One of the front groups that the totally insane rightwingnut heirs to the "John Birch Society" Koch brothers founded? 

If the American people truly knew what mischief old money was causing, there would be a 90% inheritance tax of estates over five million dollars.

 



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TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
TheRealMafoo said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
TheRealMafoo.. do you have any Māori ancestors? Is that why you are considering moving to Australia? (if that is you in your avatar picture) :/

No offense.

No, Russian and German Jew is what gives me my color.

@Montana

I don't hate America, I just hate what it's becoming. The America I was born in 40 years ago is gone, and I will never see it again.

I don't hate Belgium, but no way in hell would I live there.

Oh, and the reason for Australia over NZ, is I think there immigration laws make it easier to enter and work. Both seemed like great places to live.

Yeah, but you once bitched at Akuma for saying that he'd rather live in France. I just thought that was some big hypocrisy coming from you. Whatever.

For 200 years, the US used to stand for something. I want to live in the country that follows those views.

When I was born, the US was the best country in the world with respect to that. Not anymore. If our government wants us to follow in Europe's footsteps then fine. I just don't wish to go there.

I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 (and add in civil rights). That country, I think is Australia. It's not the US, and nothing in washington at the moment tells me it ever will be.

We all know how that decade ended. 



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NinjaguyDan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
TheRealMafoo said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
TheRealMafoo.. do you have any Māori ancestors? Is that why you are considering moving to Australia? (if that is you in your avatar picture) :/

No offense.

No, Russian and German Jew is what gives me my color.

@Montana

I don't hate America, I just hate what it's becoming. The America I was born in 40 years ago is gone, and I will never see it again.

I don't hate Belgium, but no way in hell would I live there.

Oh, and the reason for Australia over NZ, is I think there immigration laws make it easier to enter and work. Both seemed like great places to live.

Yeah, but you once bitched at Akuma for saying that he'd rather live in France. I just thought that was some big hypocrisy coming from you. Whatever.

For 200 years, the US used to stand for something. I want to live in the country that follows those views.

When I was born, the US was the best country in the world with respect to that. Not anymore. If our government wants us to follow in Europe's footsteps then fine. I just don't wish to go there.

I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 (and add in civil rights). That country, I think is Australia. It's not the US, and nothing in washington at the moment tells me it ever will be.

We all know how that decade ended. 

We know how... but amusingly nobody knows why.

I believe the most commonly believed theory among economists currently is debt deflation cause by the Federal Reserve stepping in and trying to fix a regular depression.  Forcing a "great" depression.

The theory being that depressions are natural since the world moves in cycles, however being part of a natural depression isn't great for your political life, so you try your best to postpone it... and just make matters worse.

Things start slowing down, so the fed lowers interest rates... so more people invest, and more people... however these people shouldn't be investing and take risks they probably shouldn't... and bam.  You've got a big problem.



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TheRealMafoo said:
megaman79 said:

-Mafoo, i don't even know what you mean. If only you could detail exactly what is wrong with the USA today, and why an 80 year old sexist and racist political system was better in your view.

 

Some of it is political beliefs about how a country should be run, but most of it is just based on horrific incompetence at the top (and this is any party of late).

Not to drag this into a huge political debate, but the single biggest issue I see with the US right now, is income vs. expense. For the last 60 years or so, we have been spending money at a rate we could not sustain.  The way we got away with it, was raising GDP. Yea, we ran up a huge debt, but each year we made so much more money than the last year, we could feed that dept.

Those years are over, and yet we still spend like we are living in them. Right now, as a nation, we need to cut spending by 1/3, and if we did that, it would be a good start. What do we do? We double spending, and put us on a course to spend that way for years.

In the end, we will have to print a lot of money to get out of this. What that means, is the 80K a year I make today, in 10 years will have the spending power of 60K. I do not want to spend the rest of my life in decline because the people I in trust to maintain my country are grossly incompetent to do so. Being I have no power to replace the people in my government with people who know what they are doing, then next best thing is to replace the government that resides over me.

Someone made a comment about me not wanting to pay taxes, and that’s completely wrong. I pay over 40K a year in taxes, and would not mind paying that money if I thought it went to what it should go to. I would guess 5K of that 40K is well spent, and the other 35K is pissed away. I work hard for that money, and the people I in trust that effort with (my government), needs to do a better job with it.

So I don’t hate America, I am just tired of working for them. If the Australian government will do a better job with my effort, I would be much happier giving it to them.

And I am serious by the way. I am planning on moving somewhere that is not on a path for total failure.

That actually started with Ronald Dickhead Reagan.  Trickle down (piss on the working class) economics: cut taxes on the wealthy, raise them on the people who actually do the work  (THIS I KNOW AS FACT!) and spend like a drunken sailor on useless defense contracts (redistribution of wealth from the working class to the obnoxiously rich). 

What you need to realise is that you've been confused by the plutocrats, they're playing you like a fiddle and you're singing their tune.



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Kasz216 said:
NinjaguyDan said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MontanaHatchet said:
TheRealMafoo said:
GamingChartzFTW said:
TheRealMafoo.. do you have any Māori ancestors? Is that why you are considering moving to Australia? (if that is you in your avatar picture) :/

No offense.

No, Russian and German Jew is what gives me my color.

@Montana

I don't hate America, I just hate what it's becoming. The America I was born in 40 years ago is gone, and I will never see it again.

I don't hate Belgium, but no way in hell would I live there.

Oh, and the reason for Australia over NZ, is I think there immigration laws make it easier to enter and work. Both seemed like great places to live.

Yeah, but you once bitched at Akuma for saying that he'd rather live in France. I just thought that was some big hypocrisy coming from you. Whatever.

For 200 years, the US used to stand for something. I want to live in the country that follows those views.

When I was born, the US was the best country in the world with respect to that. Not anymore. If our government wants us to follow in Europe's footsteps then fine. I just don't wish to go there.

I want to live under the form of Government that's closest to the US in 1920 (and add in civil rights). That country, I think is Australia. It's not the US, and nothing in washington at the moment tells me it ever will be.

We all know how that decade ended. 

We know how... but amusingly nobody knows why.

I believe the most commonly believed theory among economists currently is debt deflation cause by the Federal Reserve stepping in and trying to fix a regular depression.  Forcing a "great" depression.

The theory being that depressions are natural since the world moves in cycles, however being part of a natural depression isn't great for your political life, so you try your best to postpone it... and just make matters worse.

Things start slowing down, so the fed lowers interest rates... so more people invest, and more people... however these people shouldn't be investing and take risks they probably shouldn't... and bam.  You've got a big problem.

Anybody who knows what they're talking about will tell you it was caused by:

1. False Prosperity

  • overdependence on mass production, consumer spending, advertising, welfare capitalism, high tariff, "invisible hand"
  • automobile was the leading industry
  • chemicals, appliances, radio, aviation, chain stores
  • overproduction in textiles, farming, autos
  • real wages increased only 11%
  • 60% population less than $2000 poverty minimum
  • top 5% earned 33% income - spending by the rich essential
  • Andrew Mellon cut taxes

2. Speculation

  • Fed loaned at 3.5%, gold inflow 1927, Great Bull Market 1928
  • broker loans on call rose from $3.5b in 1927 to $8.5b in 1929
  • Goldman Sachs investment trusts, 50% margin trading at 5% interest
  • only 1.5m of 120m population were investors
  • pooling tactic of "anglers" - John J. Raskob
  • Charles Mitchell of National City Bank: "I know of nothing fundamentally wrong with the stock market." (Oct. 21, 1929)
  • Joe Kennedy: "Only a fool holds out for the top dollar" (sold after RKO merger in October 1928)

3. Stock Market Crash

  • Sep. 3 Dow high of 381
  • Sep. 6 Babson break - market became erratic
  • Sep. 20 - collapse of Hatry in Britain
  • Oct. 23 - J.P. Morgan buys to stop price decline
  • Oct. 24 - panic selling began - 12.8m shares
  • Oct. 29 - "Black Tuesday" - 16.4m shares
  • prices decline to Dow low 41.22 on July 8, 1932

4. Banking Crisis

  • deposits withdrawn, deflation
  • 9000 banks fail in 1930, 1932 waves
  • Austria's bank failed May 1931

5. Unemployment

  • ripple effect as leading factories close
  • rose to 25-35% of total labor force, 80% in Toledo
  • farm income declined 60%; 1/3 lost land

6. Trade Collapse

  • foreign countries retaliate with high tariffs
  • Weimar Republic unable to pay reparations or U.S. banks loans
  • U.S. had been creditor with $638m annual surplus

7. Republican Policy

  • "The Ordeal of Herbert Hoover"
  • laissez faire, balanced budget, trickle down, voluntarism
  • no use of monetary or fiscal policies
  • Agricultural Marketing Act, Hawley-Smoot tariff, RFC of Jesse Jones

WOW, most of that sounds familliar!

The dismantling of the safeguards that were put into place after the First Great Republican Depression was started by Ronald Dickhead Reagan and completed by that dumbass jackoff phoney prick Clinton.

The 21st Century: The New Feudal Age?



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@Kasz. Thats the monetarist explanation.

There are other explanations favoured by other schools of economists, but yeah monetarist has been the major one for several decades. Though it must be said, there is a huge Keynesian revival at the moment, this current crisis has caused a bit of a rethink.