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I do grasp how and why the car sounds and acts the way it does, its just not real life as i thought it would be. If a race car can't do a proper turn without drifting at 40mph.. i'd recommend people to stay away from driving that car due to health risks.



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STEKSTAV said:
Well i do however drive in real life.. and i do however use my common sense when i say that you don't get screeching tires from going 40mph. Stop being an ass.

a couple of things.

are you using a wheel controller?

do you really do sudden turns while driving in 40 MPH in real life?

do you have a tuned car in real life?

have you driven that nissan car?

have you driven on racing tyres ?

do you know that normal cars have been tuned down for extra grip and handling? (such as ABS , Break Assist, anti-Oversteer)



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edjevink said:
STEKSTAV said:
Well i do however drive in real life.. and i do however use my common sense when i say that you don't get screeching tires from going 40mph. Stop being an ass.

Screeching tires doesn't have anything to do with how fast your car is moving, that's the mistake you're making. Your tires are screeching when you put too much power on your car and tires than they can handle. The result is that your tires can't get grip, thus they make a screeching sound. It's the same thing that happens in corners when your car has overstear, which causes your car to drift. That may be due to the lack of downforce or the tires itself of course.

What??? ofcourse is does!! it's just not the only factor, but it definetly is an important one. I mean try getting screeching tires when your going 5 miles a hour.



STEKSTAV said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
STEKSTAV said:
As i read it the TT demo does however showcase the physics, not the graphics etc. But how the car handles and feels is the same as the one in the GT5 game. And THAT's what im ranting about..

It's not the physics and car handling that suck, it's you. Learn to play it properly then come back and complain if you must.

How can i play it inproperly? And what am i doing wrong if i get screeching tires at low speed and spinning around at speed below 40mph? Its not even possible in real life. Definitive racing simulation my behind.

Not even possible in real life? Not with a car that barely has any power, correct. But if you take that care for a drive on the ice, than you have the same result. Your tires can't get grip so your car spins, even when driving below 40mph. It's the same thing as driving with a really powerfull car on asphalt and putting too much power on your tires than they can handle, even when standing still.



Severance said:
STEKSTAV said:
Well i do however drive in real life.. and i do however use my common sense when i say that you don't get screeching tires from going 40mph. Stop being an ass.

a couple of things.

are you using a wheel controller?

do you really do sudden turns while driving in 40 MPH in real life?

do you have a tuned car in real life?

have you driven that nissan car?

have you driven on racing tyres ?

do you know that normal cars have been tuned down for extra grip and handling? (such as ABS , Break Assist, anti-Oversteer)

No
Wasn't a sudden turn, it was right at the start, straight path, barely no speed, just trying to get into position... spin.
No
No
Yes
Yes

 



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edjevink said:
STEKSTAV said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
STEKSTAV said:
As i read it the TT demo does however showcase the physics, not the graphics etc. But how the car handles and feels is the same as the one in the GT5 game. And THAT's what im ranting about..

It's not the physics and car handling that suck, it's you. Learn to play it properly then come back and complain if you must.

How can i play it inproperly? And what am i doing wrong if i get screeching tires at low speed and spinning around at speed below 40mph? Its not even possible in real life. Definitive racing simulation my behind.

Not even possible in real life? Not with a car that barely has any power, correct. But if you take that care for a drive on the ice, than you have the same result. Your tires can't get grip so your car spins, even when driving below 40mph. It's the same thing as driving with a really powerfull car on asphalt and putting too much power on your tires than they can handle, even when standing still.

Sure.. i understand. So how would you recommend me to slowly accelerate in-game? Push down my X button gently 1/4 of the way until i gain what speed? And then continue on to 2/4 of the way?



iLLmaticV3 said:
Severance said:
iLLmaticV3 said:
Severance said:
iLLmaticV3 said:
THIS IS NOT GRAN TURISMO 5, IT IS GRAN TURISMO ACADEMY, IT IS DIFFERENT.

How many times am I going to have to repeat myself on these threads.
This game probably won't reflect much on what Gran Turismo 5 is going to be, don't judge that game based on this.

Gran Turismo Academy is the event, it have nothing to do with gaming.

this game IS GT 5 Demo.

No, its not....

http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-time-trial-demo-screenshots-video/

It was created for GT Academy, and only uses some features found in Gran Turismo 5, it DOES NOT reflect on the final product.

 

there. thats what im saying.

its GT5 Demo, of course a Demo doesn't reflect the final version.

That last part of my post was actually for the TC, guess I'm typing too fast. My bad.

I just don't want him to just judge the game based on this, even critics understand that the final game will be "leaps and bounds" better than this....hopefully.

Considering the discussion we're having, I think this is a pretty bad marketing move for Sony and Polyphony.

Still the actual game is still a long ways off.



STEKSTAV said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
STEKSTAV said:
As i read it the TT demo does however showcase the physics, not the graphics etc. But how the car handles and feels is the same as the one in the GT5 game. And THAT's what im ranting about..

It's not the physics and car handling that suck, it's you. Learn to play it properly then come back and complain if you must.

How can i play it inproperly? And what am i doing wrong if i get screeching tires at low speed and spinning around at speed below 40mph? Its not even possible in real life. Definitive racing simulation my behind.

There's a learning curve to these games. You won't get it on the first two laps. I didn't. The difference is, I stuck to it and got the hang of it while you came and complained on a game forum that it's too hard.



STEKSTAV said:
Severance said:
STEKSTAV said:
Well i do however drive in real life.. and i do however use my common sense when i say that you don't get screeching tires from going 40mph. Stop being an ass.

a couple of things.

are you using a wheel controller?

do you really do sudden turns while driving in 40 MPH in real life?

do you have a tuned car in real life?

have you driven that nissan car?

have you driven on racing tyres ?

do you know that normal cars have been tuned down for extra grip and handling? (such as ABS , Break Assist, anti-Oversteer)

No
Wasn't a sudden turn, it was right at the start, straight path, barely no speed, just trying to get into position... spin.
No
No
Yes
Yes

 

1)you can't really play GT without a wheel controller, the analog makes you oversteer alot.

2) lol you haven't played any sim racer before it seems

3) then how do you know ? O_o;

4) japanese cars in general have good grip actually , wait till you play on a muscle car, you might rip your hair off.

5) good

6) good



I live for the burn...and the sting of pleasure...
I live for the sword, the steel, and the gun...

- Wasteland - The Mission.

SleepWaking said:
edjevink said:
STEKSTAV said:
Well i do however drive in real life.. and i do however use my common sense when i say that you don't get screeching tires from going 40mph. Stop being an ass.

Screeching tires doesn't have anything to do with how fast your car is moving, that's the mistake you're making. Your tires are screeching when you put too much power on your car and tires than they can handle. The result is that your tires can't get grip, thus they make a screeching sound. It's the same thing that happens in corners when your car has overstear, which causes your car to drift. That may be due to the lack of downforce or the tires itself of course.

What??? ofcourse is does!! it's just not the only factor, but it definetly is an important one. I mean try getting screeching tires when your going 5 miles a hour.

I don't know everything about cars, so i might be wrong, but as far as i know it has nothing to do with how fast your car is moving. For example: Give a formula 1 car the shittiest tires on the planet and put ALL the power the car has on the tires to accelerate when you're standing still. The car definitely won't get any grip so it will drift, correct? So, as far as i know it has everything to do with power and grip, nothing with how fast your car is moving.