stof said: This is for everybody. Look at that tail! |
That's a nice pic of her...is the a hi-def copy of that somewhere?
stof said: This is for everybody. Look at that tail! |
That's a nice pic of her...is the a hi-def copy of that somewhere?
Saw the movie tonight on IMAX 3D.
It is certainly a visual masterpiece. Looked gorgeous, and the 3D effect was really, really good.
However, the movies greatness really stopped at the visuals. The story was way too predictable. I'd give it a C+
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
did 19 million on monday (better than last mondays 16 million in USA) (source boxofficemojo), do u understand how astonishing and amazing this movies box office performance is so far!
AkibaFan said: did 19 million on monday (better than last mondays 16 million in USA) (source boxofficemojo), do u understand how astonishing and amazing this movies box office performance is so far! |
LOL...it's never happened before...atleast not since major tracking, and it's the most amazing feat in Box Office history, imho.
heruamon said:
LOL...it's never happened before...atleast not since major tracking, and it's the most amazing feat in Box Office history, imho. |
it appened be4, with titanic, bt avatar is doing it on larger scale, week 3 is test, if week 3 is big it has chance to outsell titanic
i hope theres a director cut where Jake and Neytiri have secks.
like titanic xD
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AkibaFan said:
it appened be4, with titanic, bt avatar is doing it on larger scale, week 3 is test, if week 3 is big it has chance to outsell titanic |
LOL...yeah...you're right...I guess I never looked at the Box Office of Titanic before...that thing was a roller coaster...The 6th week was the highest Weekend BO...I'm guessing because of the Holiday weekend of MLK. The 11th week was the 4th highest because of President's Day...that movie had a crazy run, and I think Avatar might duplicae it to some extent...dropping 20-30% a weekend from here on out...at which rate, it will top Titanic by President's Day Weekend. As I noted earlier, the month of January is pretty clear...only interesting film for me is Book of Eli (Fallout 3-like)
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I completely agree. It's not unrealistic. And to speak to Reasonable's latest post, I don't think it's even a bad thing to present a colonialism analogy. If we're looking at Avatar alone, in a vacuum, I think I have no problems. It's just that it seems to me that this is *almost always* how it's presented. Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe I'm remembering selectively? But it feels like "the guy in the suit" is always the villain; that business tactics in the movies always amount to foreclosing on an elderly widow. And, because Avatar *is* so... metaphorical, and widely applicable, it seems to be saying not just that this one business is operating this way, but that Business Operates This Way--by uprooting people's Hometrees to get at unobtainium. Do some businessmen operate this way, even today? Absolutely. And it has a place in art, and maybe Avatar is that place. It's just a theme that seems highly familiar to me by this point, and I don't see much science fiction stepping up to the plate to show how business *ought* to operate in these kinds of scenarios. No heroes who show how unobtainium might be obtained w/o horrific consequences, just the moral that unobtainium is best left unobtained, and to want to do otherwise is to be the villain. But again, maybe I'm overstating the case? Maybe the fiction examples I'm looking for exist, and I'm just blocking them from memory? I dunno. |
Oh, i don't think annalogy is bad, just in this case dissappointing and a little boring. It's very rare that a director gets the money & freedom Cameron had with regards to a Science Fiction movie, and I was just dissapointed he used it to tell me something I already know very well and infact have seen many times before, and truth be told better told before.
I would have greatly preferred him to take a risk and actually use something more interesting from the SF ouvre for his story, not something as often told as the story he chose.
The following paragraph is from a review of Avatar in UK, referring specifically to Cameron, and I think it nails him perfectly (I would in that it matches my own view of Cameron having seen all his movies and read many interviews and analysis of him) as well as highlighting the flaws this meant for Avatar as a film when compared to other films and not taken in a vacuum.
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Cameron is an old-fashioned story-teller, a dealer in myth and archetype, a creator of worlds and none too happy grappling with the complex realities of modern life as he demonstrated in True Lies and Titanic. Avatar, which has been on his mind for 15 years, is the perfect expression of his gifts and vision and depends upon forms of computer technology and 3D photography he's been developing ever since Titanic and experimenting with on documentary movies.
Avatar is overlong, dramatically two-dimensional, smug and simplistic. It preaches a sermon about our duty towards the preservation of the environment while leaving the biggest trail of carbon footprints since Godzilla trampled New York. But the imagery is often breathtaking, the ferocious battles brilliantly staged and technically it pushes the medium forward.
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Together with the lack of imagination chosen for his theme and story, that's my main issue with Avatar (as well as some other Cameron films) - he is good on story, on a mythic sense of big events, and he is a good director, but his sense of detailed, rich characters is weak, and his writing is by far his weakest area, something all to apparent in Avatar.
My dream would be to see a Cameron film that had Cameron credited as Director and for Story, and someone else for screenplay.
Ripley aside in Aliens, a character who was handed to him ready made by Ridley Scott and Sigourney Weaver, Camerson has often struggled to create truly interesting, memorable characters with depth. He's great and creating Hudson's and the like but struggles beyond fun supporting characters or obvious sterotypes for his main characters.
Avatar is a good film, no doubt about it, but it's technical achievements and Cameron's usual gift for kinetic scenes aside, it is terribly pedestrian in all other aspects.
Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...
I wanted to watch this in 3-d, but no theaters where I live have 3-d capabilities >:| Still, even in 2-d, it was positively beautiful. I especially liked the shots at night where you can see all the bioluminescent life on the ground, and that awesome gas giant in the sky with a couple of other moons.
I agree with the comments about weak/predictable plotlines, but the visual quality... holy crap.
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