^I agree, if it hurts no one then yeah ok.

But there are people who pirate because they can, regardless of a games worth.
There are people that truly only pirate what they would not buy but there are a million other bad apples out there.

So then, following that logic... any deed in which a small minority does only for self interest and to hurt others is now immoral?

So for example, looking over an old woman who's children live far away.  The majority of people who do that are committing and immoral act because a small number of people are doing it to steal inheretance?

You'd be hard pressed to find anything you do not deemed immoral then.

A small minority? I don't believe so but there is no way to tell. Games like Call of Duty and the Sims were HEAVILY pirated, are you saying that the millions of people that pirated weren't going to buy it anyway?

Yes.  Once again, that is what economic theory tells us.

Economic theory states people who would of bought it but instead pirated are a very small outlier and minority because people WANT to buy stuff.  People are conditioned to be capitalistic... it's basic human nature.

Given an option of paying a fair price and getting something for free... most people will choose "fair price".

Oh happy day, my new year's resolution is to never buy a game from now on. Now I can pirate all I want without feeling bad.

Ah, you seem to miss the point... kind of sad really.  I'll try and put it a simplier way.

Almost no act is inherently unethical.

The only act I would consider such would be rape.

Outside of that, whether something is ethical or not has to be judged on a smaller level per action level.

So if you are the kind of socially defunct person who does not want to pay for stuff, simply because your cheap.  Then in fact you are committing an immoral act.

However MOST people are not committing an immoral act when committing IP infringement.  In the same way that most people are not committing an immoral act by helping old ladies or say, going to a bar. 

But you seem to have full confidence that only a very small majority pirate not from choice but from the whim of it. We just have to agree to disagree, it's sad really, that you believe the majority of pirates are good honest people. I am a member of a psp homebrew forum and I have seen thousands of people just coming in to hack to play pirated psp games. I guess they just bought a PSP for the hell of it and to not buy any games? I guess they only had enough money to buy a PSP so they have no choice but to pirate. I mean if they don't intend to buy games anyway then why buy the system? Because they are greedy and don't want to pay for the games. It's a very simple concept and instead of trying to belittle others try to actually realize that a large majority of pirates choose to pirate because they can and not because they have to.

I have full confidence in it, in the same way i have full confidence in the existance of darkmatter.  It's the sceintific theory.

We can agree to disagree... HOWEVER in our diagreement there also needs to be an agreement that my position is based on the accepted science of the matter and yours is based on nothing more then a personal opinion.

That doesn't affect the Games's sales in a negative way, it actually affects HW sales in a positive way. I bought a PSP and I use CWF. If I was not able to pirate, I would not buy the games because they are too damn expensive. If those games were priced here like they are in the USA, I would GLADLY buy them.

Also why do people who only pirate PSP games buy PSPs?

Would you buy a PS3 if the games cost 200 dollars?

Clearly not, right? Because you'd never buy a game at 200 dollars. You could afford it, however you wouldn't think any game was worth 200 dollars.