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FaRmLaNd on 15 December 2009
mrstickball said:
Of course, on the other end, Farm, if we did not have nukes, who's to say that we wouldn't of had more wars between the major powers, as there were no fears of MAD?

Thats very much true. I definetely think the cold war would have been a whole lot hotter.

But its a sad state of affairs when a weapon of awesome destruction can at once both have the ability to destroy the human race and deter us from huge conflicts between evenly matched nations. War is such a grey area of the human condition. So many variables and even the ones that lead to less destruction still cause distruction most of the time.

Thats why I'm decidedly anti-war. I wouldn't call myself a pacifist intellectually as such a position isn't really pragmatic but in my heart I am.

 



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Kasz216 on 15 December 2009
FaRmLaNd said:
mrstickball said:
Of course, on the other end, Farm, if we did not have nukes, who's to say that we wouldn't of had more wars between the major powers, as there were no fears of MAD?

Thats very much true. I definetely think the cold war would have been a whole lot hotter.

But its a sad state of affairs when a weapon of awesome destruction can at once both have the ability to destroy the human race and deter us from huge conflicts between evenly matched nations. War is such a grey area of the human condition. So many variables and even the ones that lead to less destruction still cause distruction most of the time.

Thats why I'm decidedly anti-war. I wouldn't call myself a pacifist intellectually as such a position isn't really pragmatic but in my heart I am.

 

Doesn't that describe... pretty much everybody?


I've met few people who LIKE war... as far as real life situations anyway.


I mean, ask somebody if they want their country to go to war with somebody... I'm going to guess they're going to have a reason they see as pragmatic.



Tyrannical on 15 December 2009

I can't think of a war since the Spanish American war that the US should have gotten it's self involved in.

 

If we stayed out of WWI, we'd have never gotten dragged into WWII. Or any future mess we've been dragged into.

 

 



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire