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HELLLLLLLLLLLLLL no.





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Pyro as Bill said:
Kasz216 said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Machina said:
highwaystar101 said:
In a heartbeat. If an opposing force invaded USA soil I'm sure the UK army would be at the front line protecting your country. And I would support the UK army in protecting the USA.

However, I don't see any country being stupid enough to invade the USA


This is also my view ^^


Did chuckle to myself when people in this thread said 'the EU' would.

I'm sure they'd send some helicopters.

More fun would be when the UN sent help.  Cause it'd just be volenteered US soldiers mostly.

Haha you're assuming flance doesn't veto. You think flance would risk it's trade deals with China?

That's a good point.  However even if it didn't I think the UN troops would still come, since they're mostly US troops anyway.  The US would just pull them out... I think the UN would probably either convince France or... the UN would mostly just die.

 

All of course hypotehtial since for China to invade the US they'd actually need to reach it.

 

Even with swarmn tactics it would be really tough for China to land on US soil... and if the US had the UKs help...

That's something like 66-75% of the worlds naval power.

Even with Africa as a deployment base it'd be tough. 

 

Really the only way it'd make sense is if china bought off a decent amount of south or central america and took out mexico on the way... and even then the US would have to allow that to happen.

 



@Kasz.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2007/march07_2.pdf

Anyway, heaps of South America is pro-China due to the current wave of socialism down there.



Rath said:
@Kasz.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2007/march07_2.pdf

Anyway, heaps of South America is pro-China due to the current wave of socialism down there.

Being pro china and having enough troops there to inavade the US are too different things.



Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
@Kasz.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2007/march07_2.pdf

Anyway, heaps of South America is pro-China due to the current wave of socialism down there.

Being pro china and having enough troops there to inavade the US are too different things.

Even if they had lots of troops, I bet they wouldn't even get near the border. Spy satellites + CIA intelligence + bomber planes = a lot of dead troops far away from the border.

The same goes for any naval invasion attempt btw. That's why this thread is purely hypothetical.

 



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Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
@Kasz.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2007/march07_2.pdf

Anyway, heaps of South America is pro-China due to the current wave of socialism down there.

Being pro china and having enough troops there to inavade the US are too different things.

I meant as a launching base for any invasion. A purely naval attempt would be doomed to failure.



I would support the defense of the US providing the following conditions.

  1. The US hasn't attacked us for our bountiful resources.
  2. The US wasn't waving its dick in the aggressors face prior to the attack.

The fact of the matter is that if the US was invaded the invading force would likely not stop at the border.  It would be better to fight together than to watch the US fall and then fight.



mrstickball said:
Taz! said:
It depends on the situation, for example if it seemed apparent that the USA was getting defeated in the conflict then why would smaller countries help when they would just be crushed?

And countries don't owe the USA nothing in this sense, all conflict America has entered in the past has been in its own security/interests. In WW2 the USA didn't do very much, it was the British and to a much larger extent the Soviets who defeated Hitler, and the USA left those countries on their own until she finally got attacked.

The US lost more soldiers than the British did throughout the entirety of World War 2. We lost more soldiers than any other allied country, other than the Soviets and the Chinese. We also committed almost three times as many troops to WW2 than the British did (5.3m to 16.3m).

Also as aruged, the US suppled much material to the allies prior to enterance into the war. I don't have those figures on hand, but we did indeed help.

The US population and military is many times larger than the British - so you are expected to contribute and lose more. If you put those figures into ratio's of how much contribution there was per person etc they wont look that attractive for the US.

There's no doubt the US did help, but it didn't do anything spectacular and far from won WW2. Therefore not much is owed in this context to the US from Europe and absolutely nothing is owed from Russia.



Rath said:
Kasz216 said:
Rath said:
@Kasz.

http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/contributors/2007/march07_2.pdf

Anyway, heaps of South America is pro-China due to the current wave of socialism down there.

Being pro china and having enough troops there to inavade the US are too different things.

I meant as a launching base for any invasion. A purely naval attempt would be doomed to failure.

Which is what i'm saying.  I don't think the US would ever allow that many Chinese troops to enter South America even before declerations of hostility.

The chinese would probably need at least 3 million troops in south America to pull it off...  possibly more when you consider then massive air and missle advantages the US would hold.

Not to mention... even if they did got that way.  They'd have to go through texas first... which is about the last place you'd want to start. 

It's got a lot of Military bases, and even if taken is full of the people who are least likely to take being occupied well... There are estimates that there are more guns in the state then there are people.  It's the one place in America where you'd have guranteed "house to house" fighting.

 

An Assault from Africa makes more sense because, while more fortified if you could crush the east coast you've taken out a LOT of power right away and a lot of east coast resources and less likely to deal with guerrilla warfare.



I'd also say Britain and Russia are the main contributors to WWII.

Russia stopped the Eastern advance and Britain stopped the Western advance in the Battle of Britain.