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gergroy on 28 November 2009
deathbleachnarutodbz said:
De85 said:
deathbleachnarutodbz said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
mass effect series wont ever come to the ps3 system at all, very simple reason why. m$ wont allow it, m$ has alot invested in the series from the begining and also the series staying on the 360 is part of the contract bioware signed with m$. i think however that a similar type of game will be announced at e3 and released exclusive for the ps3 though.


Unless microsoft bought the right's to the series they really can't do anything really.If bioware want's it on the ps3 they put it on.

Not true at all, there are a variety of possibilities that could ensure ME stays exclusive to the 360 on consoles without MS having to have purchased the IP.  First off, if MS had a contract with Bioware to release exclusively on the 360, EA will have to honor that contract.  Secondly, EA is often derided for being money hungry, I would bet even they have a price at which they will give exclusivity.  MS has very deep pockets.

I predict it was the first scenario, else MS might have tried to acquire Bioware themselvse instead of letting them fall to EA.


Is there any proof?

There is an exclusivity deal for at least the first 2 games.  Bioware commented on the fact on one of the earlier mass effect on ps3 rumors.  I'm too lazy to look for a link, but you want proof you can look for it yourself.  It is out there.



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makingmusic476 on 29 November 2009
De85 said:
deathbleachnarutodbz said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
mass effect series wont ever come to the ps3 system at all, very simple reason why. m$ wont allow it, m$ has alot invested in the series from the begining and also the series staying on the 360 is part of the contract bioware signed with m$. i think however that a similar type of game will be announced at e3 and released exclusive for the ps3 though.


Unless microsoft bought the right's to the series they really can't do anything really.If bioware want's it on the ps3 they put it on.

Not true at all, there are a variety of possibilities that could ensure ME stays exclusive to the 360 on consoles without MS having to have purchased the IP.  First off, if MS had a contract with Bioware to release exclusively on the 360, EA will have to honor that contract.  Secondly, EA is often derided for being money hungry, I would bet even they have a price at which they will give exclusivity.  MS has very deep pockets.

I predict it was the first scenario, else MS might have tried to acquire Bioware themselvse instead of letting them fall to EA.

Unless they purchased the IP, the best they could've hoped for was some sort of timed exclusivity contract with either Bioware or EA.  Permanent exclusivity contracts would preclude the possibility of Mass Effect being re-released on any future platforms, which would simply be unfair to the owner of the IP.  No studio would accept such a contract.  They might as well just give away the IP if that were the case.

Either Microsoft can bargain for a timed exclusivity contract for 360 (or for 360/PC, in the case of ME2), or they can purchase the full IP, giving them full control over games utilizing the IP, including the games' potential platforms.

As such, it is possible that Mass Effect 1/2 could make there way towards other platforms in the future, much like Mass Effect eventually came to PC.

The bigger question is whether it'll actually happen.  Six months ago I would've said yes, under the assumption that any big third party releases this gen will end up multiplat, but when MGS4 wasn't announced for 360 at E3, I've since taken the stance of, "It could happen, but I'll believe it when I see it."



De85 on 29 November 2009
makingmusic476 said:
De85 said:
deathbleachnarutodbz said:
ROBOTECHHEAVEN said:
mass effect series wont ever come to the ps3 system at all, very simple reason why. m$ wont allow it, m$ has alot invested in the series from the begining and also the series staying on the 360 is part of the contract bioware signed with m$. i think however that a similar type of game will be announced at e3 and released exclusive for the ps3 though.


Unless microsoft bought the right's to the series they really can't do anything really.If bioware want's it on the ps3 they put it on.

Not true at all, there are a variety of possibilities that could ensure ME stays exclusive to the 360 on consoles without MS having to have purchased the IP.  First off, if MS had a contract with Bioware to release exclusively on the 360, EA will have to honor that contract.  Secondly, EA is often derided for being money hungry, I would bet even they have a price at which they will give exclusivity.  MS has very deep pockets.

I predict it was the first scenario, else MS might have tried to acquire Bioware themselvse instead of letting them fall to EA.

Unless they purchased the IP, the best they could've hoped for was some sort of timed exclusivity contract with either Bioware or EA.  Permanent exclusivity contracts would preclude the possibility of Mass Effect being re-released on any future platforms, which would simply be unfair to the owner of the IP.  No studio would accept such a contract.  They might as well just give away the IP if that were the case.

Either Microsoft can bargain for a timed exclusivity contract for 360 (or for 360/PC, in the case of ME2), or they can purchase the full IP, giving them full control over games utilizing the IP, including the games' potential platforms.

As such, it is possible that Mass Effect 1/2 could make there way towards other platforms in the future, much like Mass Effect eventually came to PC.

The bigger question is whether it'll actually happen.  Six months ago I would've said yes, under the assumption that any big third party releases this gen will end up multiplat, but when MGS4 wasn't announced for 360 at E3, I've since taken the stance of, "It could happen, but I'll believe it when I see it."

Any hypothetical agreement could have stipulated that the deal was for the current-gen only, there are more than just the two scenarios that you presented, especially when said agreement might stretch to hundreds of pages.

Look, I'm not trying to offer this as proof of anything, merely another possibilty to be considered.  I think it's at least as reasonable an opinion as believing that Bioware being acquired by EA, or having in-house PS3 guys means automatic confirmation of the series heading to PS3.



Dogswithguns on 29 November 2009

Is this mean Bioware gonna make some exclusive games for PS3?



De85 on 29 November 2009
Dogswithguns said:
Is this mean Bioware gonna make some exclusive games for PS3?

All this means definitively, is that for any Bioware game that is released on PS3, the PS3 coding will be done by Bioware personnel.



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twesterm on 30 November 2009

It's funny this topic comes up, I saw one of the guys that did the PS3/360 port a few nights ago. I didn't even realize he had worked on that until we started talking about Dragon Age and then one of the other people finally told me he did the port. XD