and when you don't, we'll be able to assume that they're all innocent?

excuse me for being pedantic, but you say that you "know" they're mafia then tell us that its your "instincts" in the same post.. but either way, how can you be so sure? you seem to just want rid of Fina-Fan because he's on your case. Now obviously i have no idea whether FF is innocent or mafia, but i DO know that whether he posts a lot or not (someone mentioned his posting habits a while back, i dont remember who) has no bearing on his innocence/guilt. He's always one of the most valuable players in the game whether mafia or not, so it seems plausible (to me anyway) that if you were mafia, you would benefit from

A) delaying your own lynching
B) having the opportunity to night-kill your biggest thread of exposure (FF)
C) leaving a doubt in our minds, at least, that he is guilty.

have you considered that the two of you could plausibly both be innocent, that it doesn't have to be one or the other? that's what makes me suspicious of you, sabby... your main defence seems to be countering the accusations with accusations against someone else, i.e. diverting attention.

I'm not necessarily defending Final_fan here, but something just doesn't sit right.

also, sorry i wasnt online yesterday, i had a busy uni day.

I will turn up innocent if you kill me. And say I did turn up Mafia, you know it was all a plot, but I'm not Mafia.

I've explained my suspicious detailed in other posts, go look them up because it'll take some time for me to find them. And its not just because  Final-Fan has been all over my ass. Saying that would be unfair because many others are suspicious of me as well.

Its weird that you are asking me these questions when Final-Fan also wants me dead pretty bad, looking back at some of the posts he made he points out at some unimportant posts that I made and made big deals out of them.

And another thing, if I'm about to get lynched, I'm not going to just sit there and do nothing, of course I'll have defend my self even if it means in an extremist way.

I also find it strange that Hatmoza has been backing Final alot, both seem Mafia and their bond makes me sure of it.

I am setting a vote deadline.

In 24 hours (and no sooner), anyone with 5+ votes will be lynched. If no one has 5 votes or more, there will be No Lynch.

thats fair enough, i'm glad you're online to answer just now cos i need to go pretty soon ¬_¬;

i just read over 200 posts cos i was away yesterday, i saw a lot of mafia ping-pong between you and FF, he does seem to want you dead pretty bad but then you seem to be equally convinced that he needs to die, too. can't blame me for being confused >.<

i dont think its "weird" that im asking questions, though.. im trying to sort out everything that's happened over the last few pages, and there's a LOT. so excuse me if my questions seem odd, i often do this when i've missed a large or important chunk of the game, i'm trying to be up-to-date with my info.

and its thoroughly commendable that you don't just sit there and do nothing, i'm sure i'd do the same.

i haven't paid too much attention to the hatmoza/FF bond yet, i'll look through it later. for now i was focusing on the FF/Sabby battle since that seems to be the most pressing issue at hand.

and what exactly are your instincts telling you about Carl, and why?

He wanted me dead as well and never even questioned Final's behaviour, that makes me suspicious of people.

i guess it is suspicious when people don't question, do you have a link to a post where he said he WANTED you dead or was it just a vote?

He didn't say he wanted me dead but he voted me and would question some of the stuff I wrote.

I know this may seem suspicious but I wish people would just lynch Final already. I've said enough and its up to all of you to choose between me and Final because no one else is getting lynched today.

May I suggest we lynch supermario128 one last time? sabby is still putting up a fight and I believe he is nothing more than a towny. mario however, is strangely agreeing with me after his little incident.

@sabby

besides halting his pile-up the previous day, I don't remember ever agreeing with FF today.

I highly doubt Mario is a Mafia, you can vote for him but it won't have much effect.

Well, I've been backing you on SM128, maybe that's what he was thinking of.  At one point I even said something like "uh oh, now it looks like I'm on a faction with hatmoza".