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zexen_lowe said:
Warning, rant incoming, don't read if you're sensible

You're discussing in circles, it's damn annoying! Can you freaking lynch someone? I'm tired of these endless days of nonsensical accusations. Just pick someone and be freaking done with so this stupid game can end!

/zombie rant mode off

Can I point out it's a bit your fault for clearing someone who doesn't post?



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TruckOSaurus said:
dsister44 said:

I'm not sure what I was thinking with 3. But one of the reasons(If I remember correctly) you guys were suspecting me was because I was pro double lynch. 

Why exactly are you suspecting me?

 

I'll repeat what I said earlier:

If you want my rationale for voting dsister is a nutshell: He's been laying low the whole game, I don't buy his "I don't post because it makes me look suspicious" excuse. Only him and trashleg are still suspicious to me.

The thing is whenever I post. I always make a mistake. One of the posts in this thread when I listed the lurkers. A lot of people got on me for it. 

In this game. I made a mistake on the first day, and it haunted me till the deputy cleared me(On the third day I believe)

And another game I stood up and tried to defend some lurkers, and that nearly got me killed as well(I can't remember which game that was)

 

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dsister44 said:
TruckOSaurus said:
dsister44 said:

I'm not sure what I was thinking with 3. But one of the reasons(If I remember correctly) you guys were suspecting me was because I was pro double lynch. 

Why exactly are you suspecting me?

 

I'll repeat what I said earlier:

If you want my rationale for voting dsister is a nutshell: He's been laying low the whole game, I don't buy his "I don't post because it makes me look suspicious" excuse. Only him and trashleg are still suspicious to me.

The thing is whenever I post. I always make a mistake. One of the posts in this thread when I listed the lurkers. A lot of people got on me for it. 

In this game. I made a mistake on the first day, and it haunted me till the deputy cleared me(On the third day I believe)

And another game I stood up and tried to defend some lurkers, and that nearly got me killed as well(I can't remember which game that was)

 

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seriously Zexen, butt out. Let them play.



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I really don't see Final-Fan being mafia. His entire defense was basically that he knew that Hatmoza wasn't mafia. If had known that Hatmoza was mafia I doubt he would have agreed to his lynching if the next day he(Final-fan) would get lynched. Out of all the people I am the most suspicious of Truckosaurus. His responses to the links I posted weren't very convincing.



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sabby_e17 said:
Final-Fan said:
I had already said a similar theory:

"(EPIPHANY: It would be pretty awesome if sabby was mafia. He had his feud with hatmoza going pretty much from the start IIRC, I just got into the middle of it, which helped both sides play the whole town. Not saying I necessarily think this is the case, but it would be a very devious strategy. And I've always been leery of how crazy sabby seemed to be.)"

If you succeeded in lynching hatmoza you look good, if you failed then it means people trust hatmoza which is also good and they might not even think you're guilty.

Grasping at straws? Am I not supposed to defend myself now? And what better way to defend myself than to show that the theory doesn't fit me very well -- that in fact it's a better fit for someone ELSE?

I keep telling you, being right about hatmoza doesn't make you right about me, and I'm not going to just roll over and die to prove it.

Actually my theory fits you perfectlly.

I posted my theory when you and Trucks started to vote and make accusations against Nen, and Hatmoza joined in. Your plan WAS to lynch nen on his own, but I still wanted a double lynch.

But you opposed the double lynch for two reasons:

1. Two Mafia would have died if the day resulted with a double lynch between Hatmoza and nen. Killing one Mafia (nen) was worth the risk so that suspicion would decline on you and Hatmoza.

2. Lynching Hatmoza and nen-suer would have spoiled your plan because it was you, Hatmoza and Trucks that wanted to kill nen but with Hatmoza getting lynched, your plan would have fallen down the drain.

Also I can't argue with you because I have a big exam coming up tommorow so I gotta revise. But remember this, I will be able to counter your every move, and you will get lynched today. 

1.  I would have known better than to think you would give up on your double lynch.  You were OBSESSED with me and hatmoza. 

[edit:  1.1  That would have made the CLEAR possibility of creating a double lynch with whoever we switched to and either me and hatmoza (which is exactly what happened), which is the worst possible outcome for me as mafia if TWO mafia get lynched AND it still throws huge suspicion on me.  At least if I had gotten it switched to someone else I wouldn't look much worse and a townie would die AND nen-suer would be alive.]

2.  When I was completely sure nen-suer was mafia, I was in favor of the double lynch.  In fact I'm responsible for a lot of those votes.  It was only when I was less than competely sure about nen that I opposed the DL, since I was sure that hatmoza was innocent (oops) and didn't want even a small risk of lynching two townies. 

2.1  And don't say that I planned making that "mistake" and nen pointing it out; mafia can't talk during the day and even if you disagree with me you KNOW that's what I adhere to.  And I don't know how it could possibly have been feasible to have planned it all out exactly that way the previous night, unless I'm misremembering. 



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I'm going to repeat this, and maybe sabby will actually pay attention to it instead of squeezing all possible "incriminating" interpretations out of it.

"And by the way, the simple fact that hatmoza, TOS, and I were all banding together openly should tell you we're not all mafia. 3+ mafia OPENLY banding together would just be just completely idiotic, none of us 3 are that stupid. I admit it's a POSSIBILITY that TOS(guilty) saw me(innocent) and hatmoza(guilty) being together and not particularly suspected aside from by you, and decided to join in hoping to create a faction of mafia and unsuspecting townies to get a majority and lynch people." ... "Waaaay too much exposure, any of them go down and suspicion is thrown on the rest."



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TruckOSaurus said:
I see, it seems you do have a talent for screw ups... but practice makes perfect!

I have to admit, I don't really see the point of this comment.  If you have no rebuttal, then admit it; if you have one, give it.  Witty comments are fine but there was a discussion going on that you did not address.  I agree with dsister that it makes you look bad. 

I think my vote might be on dsister and I no longer have enough reason to have it on anyone in particular IMO, IIRC, so

Unvote whoever



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Y'know, zexen didn't get to investigate many people, but he did a hell of a job getting WoW out of the game. I shudder to think how this would have gone with him alive as mafia.

... and while I'm on the subject of mafia, why does sabby's theory revolve completely around mafia betraying other mafia to make themselves look good? None of the known mafia so far have done that that I recall right now. Even hatmoza who seemed okay with the DL of himself and nen-suer was in reality voting for trashleg nearly the whole time.

And remember folks, the whole reason I was buddy-buddy with hatmoza is because I said I believed that his defense of me was not mafia-like. So he was defending me and I was defending him. What kind of retarded mafia does that so blatantly? And then the same mafia supposedly turns around and completely self-destructs in a house-of-cards scheme of betrayal and counter-betrayal? Seriously guys, think about it.



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