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i want to give FF time to defend himself first, though. even though he IS top of my suspect list.

Trucks is next on my list, just because right from the start of this game he has been trying to trip me up and point the finger at me and generally tried to stir stuff with me all because i voted for him instead of FoSing him when i was busy and got carried away. i mean, there's busting someone for making a mistake and then there's trying to take advantage of that and use it at every possible opportunity. you can see for yourselves which he's been doing.

i need to go offline soon though because my lab partner's comin up so we can do our report for tomorrow. so i wont be online the rest of the night is that ok?

FoS: Final-Fan

also, im glad Soleron said no more double lynches because our group is WAY too sensitive to major cutbacks from here on out. :/



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
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I have strong reservations about lynching Final Fan, I dont think he or Sabby are mafia tbh, I could be wrong of course, but I dont think I am

I still think its more likely that low profile players are mafia



trashleg said:
Final-Fan said:
The people who stayed on hatmoza are Falcon, sabby, trashleg and Carl. Falcon gets a pass for being innocent, and Carl gets one for being innocent and dead. So that leaves sabby, who had a hard-on for hatmoza the entire time and supported the double lynch, and trashleg, who ... has ALSO been on hatmoza's nuts.

Either trashleg has seen what sabby saw (in which case why didn't you speak up more loudly?) or ... something. I don't know. I guess that wasn't too helpful, probably, but I'm glad I checked.

[edit:  OTOH, trashleg did kind of oppose the double lynch ... but then so did I, so make of that what you will.]

i wasn't opposed to the double lynching of YOU (Final-Fan) and hatmoza, because i was 100% sure that you were BOTH mafia.

i wasn't up for the double lynch when it switched to nen-suer, because i wasn't suspicious of him so much (i was wrong, can't be right all the time) that's why my vote switched to a solid HATMOZA vote.

however, FF, is it right for me to intimate that you only seemed to object to the double lynch when you were on the other end of it?

i'm with sabby on this one.. if there are 2 mafia left, i'd bargain that its FF and someone else, maaaybe trucks, but just as easily one of the more quiet posters. if there's one, i'd say FF. i've known him to sell out on his fellow mafia before (*cough 5A cough cough*) because he plays to win. not just for his team, but for himself.

No, you're wrong.  For a while I was OK with the double lynch of nen and hat, but then my "proof" was shown to be faulty and after I was no longer 100% sure nen was bad (but still mostly sure) I was trying to lynch nen-suer and nen-suer alone.  I was totally fooled by hatmoza right up to the end of the day. 

I know you've gotten a bad impression of me; I completely sold you out in 5A and got you ACCIDENTALLY killed when you were BQE.  (But in my defense, you were totally asking for it in 5A.  I couldn't NOT vote you without breaking cover.  I didn't know if the mod would end the day fast enough if I put the hammer on the other guy.  My one mistake IMO was supporting the double lynch.) 

I only try so hard to stay alive because (A) it's natural and (B) I'm a good luck charm for my team.  If I lived to the end, my team always has won.  If I died, we always have lost.  I'm town. 

You were sure I was mafia?  I don't remember you saying that. 



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sabby_e17 said:
Man where are the other players? I need support if I am to succeed in the lynching of Final.

And Final, you are a COMPLETE joker for putting the blame on me. Seriously, you're trying to frame me using my OWN THEORY?!??!

I can tell it now, you're desperate to survive, and are trying to find any means of surviving tonight. Any clever person would go and ANALYZE my actions and your actions before coming to a conclusion.

I need all townies in here so we can finally get rid of Final, I've been waiting to lynch you since Day 3 and that was about 6 real days ago.

It's the perfect frame-up:  attributing what's REALLY happening to another person.  However, it would also mean you're worse than trashleg's worst nightmares of me:  your every post has been a real or pretend attempt to get every single one of your fellow mafia lynched! 

As I said, I don't think it's true because there I don't believe there are still 2 mafia left, but if there WERE then your theory (or should I say your strategy which you are putting forth in a theory to falsely lynch me) would fit you better.  I noticed this because I was clever and analyzed your actions. 

The other hole in this theory is that either one of us who did it would be a complete machiavellian evil genius with balls of steel and insanely good (or at least confident) at predicting the town's reactions to manipulate them.  Which I'm not, and you all know I'm not based on previous games. 

And (A) such a person could come up with a better plan and (B) if it was me I would know better than to think that ANYTHING would get you off our nuts as long as hatmoza and I were still breathing.  And if you're about to say I also predicted hatmoza would get double lynched, getting nen-suer killed wouldn't have been worth it to buy me one more day but leave me in such a precarious position, with my close ally hatmoza turning up mafia.  Not even for the good luck charm. 



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Final-Fan said:
sabby_e17 said:
Man where are the other players? I need support if I am to succeed in the lynching of Final.

And Final, you are a COMPLETE joker for putting the blame on me. Seriously, you're trying to frame me using my OWN THEORY?!??!

I can tell it now, you're desperate to survive, and are trying to find any means of surviving tonight. Any clever person would go and ANALYZE my actions and your actions before coming to a conclusion.

I need all townies in here so we can finally get rid of Final, I've been waiting to lynch you since Day 3 and that was about 6 real days ago.

It's the perfect frame-up:  attributing what's REALLY happening to another person.  However, it would also mean you're worse than trashleg's worst nightmares of me:  your every post has been a real or pretend attempt to get every single one of your fellow mafia lynched! 

As I said, I don't think it's true because there I don't believe there are still 2 mafia left, but if there WERE then your theory (or should I say your strategy which you are putting forth in a theory to falsely lynch me) would fit you better.  I noticed this because I was clever and analyzed your actions. 

The other hole in this theory is that either one of us who did it would be a complete machiavellian evil genius with balls of steel and insanely good (or at least confident) at predicting the town's reactions to manipulate them.  Which I'm not, and you all know I'm not based on previous games. 

And (A) such a person could come up with a better plan and (B) if it was me I would know better than to think that ANYTHING would get you off our nuts as long as hatmoza and I were still breathing.  And if you're about to say I also predicted hatmoza would get double lynched, getting nen-suer killed wouldn't have been worth it to buy me one more day but leave me in such a precarious position, with my close ally hatmoza turning up mafia.  Not even for the good luck charm. 


What if I hadn't posted my theory? Then what would have you done?

It's clear that you're grasping for straws and trying to find any means to survive and the only way you can do that is by putting the blame on me.




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I had already said a similar theory:

"(EPIPHANY: It would be pretty awesome if sabby was mafia. He had his feud with hatmoza going pretty much from the start IIRC, I just got into the middle of it, which helped both sides play the whole town. Not saying I necessarily think this is the case, but it would be a very devious strategy. And I've always been leery of how crazy sabby seemed to be.)"

If you succeeded in lynching hatmoza you look good, if you failed then it means people trust hatmoza which is also good and they might not even think you're guilty.

Grasping at straws? Am I not supposed to defend myself now? And what better way to defend myself than to show that the theory doesn't fit me very well -- that in fact it's a better fit for someone ELSE?

I keep telling you, being right about hatmoza doesn't make you right about me, and I'm not going to just roll over and die to prove it.



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Final-Fan said:
I had already said a similar theory:

"(EPIPHANY: It would be pretty awesome if sabby was mafia. He had his feud with hatmoza going pretty much from the start IIRC, I just got into the middle of it, which helped both sides play the whole town. Not saying I necessarily think this is the case, but it would be a very devious strategy. And I've always been leery of how crazy sabby seemed to be.)"

If you succeeded in lynching hatmoza you look good, if you failed then it means people trust hatmoza which is also good and they might not even think you're guilty.

Grasping at straws? Am I not supposed to defend myself now? And what better way to defend myself than to show that the theory doesn't fit me very well -- that in fact it's a better fit for someone ELSE?

I keep telling you, being right about hatmoza doesn't make you right about me, and I'm not going to just roll over and die to prove it.


Actually my theory fits you perfectlly.

I posted my theory when you and Trucks started to vote and make accusations against Nen, and Hatmoza joined in. Your plan WAS to lynch nen on his own, but I still wanted a double lynch.

But you opposed the double lynch for two reasons:

1. Two Mafia would have died if the day resulted with a double lynch between Hatmoza and nen. Killing one Mafia (nen) was worth the risk so that suspicion would decline on you and Hatmoza.

2. Lynching Hatmoza and nen-suer would have spoiled your plan because it was you, Hatmoza and Trucks that wanted to kill nen but with Hatmoza getting lynched, your plan would have fallen down the drain.

Also I can't argue with you because I have a big exam coming up tommorow so I gotta revise. But remember this, I will be able to counter your every move, and you will get lynched today. 




dsister44 said:

I'm not sure what I was thinking with 3. But one of the reasons(If I remember correctly) you guys were suspecting me was because I was pro double lynch. 

Why exactly are you suspecting me?

 

I'll repeat what I said earlier:

If you want my rationale for voting dsister is a nutshell: He's been laying low the whole game, I don't buy his "I don't post because it makes me look suspicious" excuse. Only him and trashleg are still suspicious to me.



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Warning, rant incoming, don't read if you're sensible

You're discussing in circles, it's damn annoying! Can you freaking lynch someone? I'm tired of these endless days of nonsensical accusations. Just pick someone and be freaking done with so this stupid game can end!

/zombie rant mode off




zexen_lowe said:
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You're discussing in circles, it's damn annoying! Can you freaking lynch someone? I'm tired of these endless days of nonsensical accusations. Just pick someone and be freaking done with so this stupid game can end!

/zombie rant mode off

Get back in the dang hole! It's your turn in Uno!



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