What rubbish.

Of course you should focus on making the job easier for developers. Anything that aids developers is a boon to ones platform.

Are you serious?  So your saying that it is better to have an exotic architecture that no one knows how to program for and it takes a year or 2 before anyone can master?  Think about what you just said and how foolish it sounds.

If a platform is easier to program for the development house can spend more time polishing their product instead of just figuring out ways to make it work.  It would also make said studio more profitable, because their product could be released a lot faster.  It would be a win win for everyone not just for Sony.

Surely you jest? I hope so :). Previously, you singled me out for, how did you word it, sitting on the edge, kind of implying I am a Sony boy.

To compare LTD sales of the PS3 to total sales for Xbox 1, when it's a pretty sure thing that PS3 LTD will probably at least double what they are now, meaning that probably, the PS3 install base could be at least 3 times the size of what Xbox 1 ever was? No, I am not saying the PS3 is a raving success and it's not looking secure that the PS3 will outsell the 360 this gen. See unlike Sony Boys, I am not convinced the PS3 will even come 2nd. But seriously, to compare it's current success to the lamented Xbox 1? That's a jest right? If not, that's just fanboism.

You mentioned what gimmick the PS3 has? Well I thought that was pretty obvious - Blu-ray :). That gimmick has probably been the inspiration of 50% of the "versus" threads, ever made. Not bad for a feature that you probably don't consider a gimmick.

Anyway, it's all good. I'm just shit stirring a Kiwi that lives down the road (globally speaking).

I wasn't comparing the Xbox 1 sales I was talking about the positioning in the market and the unique selling proposition it contains. The Xbox 1 had the USP of being more powerful and having internal memory and that became typical for all next generation consoles like the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360. If the USP of the PS3 are performance and motion technlogy and Blu Ray and all are surpassed or standard and implemented better in next generation consoles then what place does the PS3 have in the market, like the Xbox 1 today had it been kept on the market?

Im sorry I jest as im never serious except when im secretly watching my PS3 to see if it updates its Myspace profile when it thinks im not looking.

Well I'd be pretty sure that the PS3 will get continued support from Sony after the PS4 comes out. It would be a modest estimate that the PS3 reaches 60-70m sales. Sony seem to have a record of not dropping support for redundant products.

I have been in IT for quite some time. I have seen how MS migrated from the Mid 80's to the giant they are now. If there is one thing you can bet the house on with MS is that they drop support for legacy products a fair bit quicker than the competition. Yes, that is the nature of the computer O/S market but it seems that MS has taken this strategy into the console arena. Though, I admit it's really only their second run at it so maybe I am reading too much into it.

we will see some kind of cell in the PS4 but IBM stoped working with it
they maxed it out,

I'm going to write a thread about this tomorrow maybe.

Here's a taste. Sony doesn't want their games to be easily ported to the PC.

The cell isn't harder to develop for. Rather it's different. It's new and there is a learning curve. Think about other languages. Other languages aren't harder to express, they are just different and alien.

^^ He's got a point. The PS2 emulator is still not perfected. Heck, Sony could only do BC for PS2 when they added the hardware. :)

Yes, think about some small african tribe language with only few users. Afterwards you have only wasted your time learning it because nobody else talks it except the tribe with whom you have been living with. I know, someone must do that job too, but forcing all people to learn it is stupid. Its the same as with ps2. If you are able optimize stuff on ps2 and make wonders with EE, it really doesn't help with PS3. Thats what Sony is doing all over. Its nicely rewarding them with big losses and actually it serves them well too, arrogant bastards. :)

theprof00 of course it's harder to develop for. No amount of "it's just different" platitudes are gonna change that.

First of all, it's asymmetric, which means you have to write code differently for the PPE and SPE if you want to exploit them to the max. This does not happen with most other gaming CPUs, where you have a single core design replicated several times.

Second of all, it has more cores which means you have to program more threads (a gaming engine is not trivially parallelizable).

Objectively, the Cell is harder to develop for. If someone says otherwise they're either ignorant or lying.

Your languages analogy is also flawed. For example even though my native language is Portuguese, I am perfectly able to realize that Portuguese verbs are much harder than English verbs.