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disolitude said:

See, it all has to do with simple economics...and you don't seem to understand it very well if you think microsoft is stupid for not duking it out with Sony for second place this holiday season.

Microsoft
-Microsoft does not lose money on hardware and they would probably like to keep it that way
-They have a wide enough userbase and their console sells enough games that they can sustain healthy business without losing money on hardware at this point
-MS charges for XBL, and people are willing to pay (worth every penny). Another source of income

Sony
-does not have a confortable system userbase yet due to being in 3rd place is sales, hence doesnt sell as much software. Not as much royalties as Microsoft from software sales.
- still loses money on hardware
- does not charge for online service

So while you are right that MS is going to finish 3rd in console sales this holiday...they really dont need to bend over backwards to compete with PS3 for each console sold. They have a healty business model that is profitable at this point.

I think 2010 will be a bloodbath...great software on both sides, 360 price cut, and natal vs sony wand. Only then will we see who wins the HD console race this gen.

i hate it how u guys say sony is poor and is in dept and is sucking and loses money a lot more than it makes just say "playstation" loses money cuz sony as an industry is kicking ass they have sony pictures and sony music which all make hell lots of money usually each film sony publishes and spreads makes about 300 million profit for them and they do that to lots and lots of films..... gah u guys think sony is that dumb and poor?? they just dont want their profits cut by their succesor "the playstation" 



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smbu2000 said:
I thought the MW2 bundle was pretty good. I already have an Elite 360, but I'm looking to pick up a MW2 360 bundle for myself now! (if I can find one in Japan)

[Why do that was answered in another message.  Ignore this post.]



damndl0ser said:
I think they have an elite bundle in Europe that has Forza 3 and MW2, so that sounds to me like a hell of a bundle. If they brought that over here to the USA it would fly off of the shelves. It's still early so I would imagine it will heat up the closer we get to Christmas time, give it a chance.


NA !

they have a special Elite bundle + MW2 or FM3, not both

but I do agree : all is possible : price cut, special offer, or nothing



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Ghazi4 said:
disolitude said:

See, it all has to do with simple economics...and you don't seem to understand it very well if you think microsoft is stupid for not duking it out with Sony for second place this holiday season.

Microsoft
-Microsoft does not lose money on hardware and they would probably like to keep it that way
-They have a wide enough userbase and their console sells enough games that they can sustain healthy business without losing money on hardware at this point
-MS charges for XBL, and people are willing to pay (worth every penny). Another source of income

Sony
-does not have a confortable system userbase yet due to being in 3rd place is sales, hence doesnt sell as much software. Not as much royalties as Microsoft from software sales.
- still loses money on hardware
- does not charge for online service

So while you are right that MS is going to finish 3rd in console sales this holiday...they really dont need to bend over backwards to compete with PS3 for each console sold. They have a healty business model that is profitable at this point.

I think 2010 will be a bloodbath...great software on both sides, 360 price cut, and natal vs sony wand. Only then will we see who wins the HD console race this gen.

i hate it how u guys say sony is poor and is in dept and is sucking and loses money a lot more than it makes just say "playstation" loses money cuz sony as an industry is kicking ass they have sony pictures and sony music which all make hell lots of money usually each film sony publishes and spreads makes about 300 million profit for them and they do that to lots and lots of films..... gah u guys think sony is that dumb and poor?? they just dont want their profits cut by their succesor "the playstation" 

I am going to try to figure out what you wrote and comment on it, because it looks like you spelled multiple words wrong, and also used wrong words.

In regards to Sony, they have DEBT and have been losing money with the PS3.  Even as they happened to get more sales than the 360 with the PS3, it costs them money.  Word now is Microsoft doesn't lose money on each 360 they sell, but the PS3 does.  Sony may make up the loses elsewhere, but their networking division, where they have the Playstation brand, lost a bunch of money. 

By the way, you might of wanted to have your post as a stand-alone message.  What I see when you reply to the poster in that message, is an overreaction. 

By the way, what "industry" is Sony exactly?  Please explain your "Sony as an industry" comment.



disolitude said:

See, it all has to do with simple economics...and you don't seem to understand it very well if you think microsoft is stupid for not duking it out with Sony for second place this holiday season.

Microsoft
-Microsoft does not lose money on hardware and they would probably like to keep it that way
-They have a wide enough userbase and their console sells enough games that they can sustain healthy business without losing money on hardware at this point
-MS charges for XBL, and people are willing to pay (worth every penny). Another source of income

Sony
-does not have a confortable system userbase yet due to being in 3rd place is sales, hence doesnt sell as much software. Not as much royalties as Microsoft from software sales.
- still loses money on hardware
- does not charge for online service

So while you are right that MS is going to finish 3rd in console sales this holiday...they really dont need to bend over backwards to compete with PS3 for each console sold. They have a healty business model that is profitable at this point.

I think 2010 will be a bloodbath...great software on both sides, 360 price cut, and natal vs sony wand. Only then will we see who wins the HD console race this gen.


One could also argue that a price cut would allow more sales, saving people from buying the recently price cutted Wii+PS3, and allowing more software sales AND more online gold membership.

I mean, I m sure MS knows what they are doing BUT I dont find your post give us any evidence about "not price cut" being better than "price cut". At the end, like all of us, it is only interpretation of their business position ...



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the quote thing isnt working so im just gonna reply to u here and im telling u that sony doesnt just make money from gaming they also make money from films and other things which cover the losses from playstation as i said you guys keep acting like sony is only in the gaming business which its not and i dont need to type things right cause im not from england or america and i dont really give a $#&^ ok?



mw2 bundle + walmart deal + yearly bundle is good enough for everyone imo