No I'm talking about what gives a person justification for their horrible acts. Farming doesn't say you should kill anybody. Farming doesn't say anything at all. It's a process to grow food. Communism was an ideology derived by humans and written in books, which called for struggle and class warfare.

Religion is a belief system derived by humans and written in books, which calls for struggle and the subjugation or eradication of those who don't follow your religion.

That tells me that the following quotes are from chapters that start with "In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful"

5-51 - O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk. (51)

98-6 - Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings

8 - 39 - And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is all for Allah.

8 -12/17 When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. (12) That is because they opposed Allah and His messenger. Whoso opposeth Allah and His messenger, (for him) lo! Allah is severe in punishment. (13) That (is the award), so taste it, and (know) that for disbelievers is the torment of the Fire. (14) O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (15) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless manoeuvring for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end. (16) Ye (Muslims) slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer, Knower. (17)

5-33/34 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; (33) Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (34)

4-56 Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise. (56)

Although I wouldn't let the ghastly nature of Al Tawba get away on a technicality like that.

5-51 It isn't talking about all Christians and Jews. Only those who mock and ridicule Islam.  See 5:57.

98-6 Those who disbelieve will go to hell... once again not condoning any violence.

8-39 Fight against the religious persecution against Islam... What's wrong with this?

8-12/17 Once again reffering to what you should do if attacked.    Otherwise...

"But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards
peace, and trust in God: for He is One that hears and knows (all things)."

http://www.islam101.com/terror/verse8_12.htm

5-22/34 Talking about self defense against war.  Once again, i fail to see a problem telling people to fight back when attacked.

4-56 People who don't believe will likely end up in hell.  Not actually talking about burning real people.

It took all of 5 minutes for me to look this up.  This seems to be a lot like your Michael Moore beliefs.  Something that you need to have a bit more time to do some proper research on.

If he's not clearly representing a country or the declared wishes of its leaders then it can't really be called an act of war.  To be honest, from what I've read, sounds like the guy was acting in a manner that, from a certain viewpoint (i.e. Western) was based on a mix of physcological problems and a self initiated act linked into ongoing propoganda by terrorist organizations.

Personally, the real flaw I see in US response here goes right back to Bush declaring a 'War on Terror'.  It shows a country and approach built around nations, clearly defined foes and obvious understanding of a winning/losing position.  This isn't the case, and you're looking at people acting for religious/conviction reasons with no real state behind them, many with issues that make them ideal fodder for this situation, and no clear winning strategy.

Nasty act though, no doubt about that, whatever drove him.

Sorry Kasz, but your loosing this one. Can you show me a place in the Quran where it tells you to be kind to those who don't follow Allah?

So far, it's very easy to take this to the extreme, when you have no text to counter it. And most of those don't seem to be talking about what happens when they die.. they sound like instructions one what to do with the living. Esp 4-56.

Oh, and I like the way you pass over the line "They are the worst of created beings". That's an important statement. There are many things that are legal to kill in the world (animals for food, animals that threaten crops, fish), and anyone who doesn't follow Allah is less then those who law says can be killed.

So... easy to read what you want into that book. Most people in modern times have more common since then to take those things to there true meaning, but it does not excuse there existence in that book.

And yes, people have killed for other things, but they were nut jobs. Video games are never given to children as instruction manuals on how to conduct your life. The Quran is.

You're going to have to give me the name of the chapter because we don't use numbers.

And you do realise the Quran is organized by length not chronological or any other sort of method? So it's not like "PUT THE KILLING FIRST! THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW TO KILL!"

The fact of the matter is that the Quran is a fairly large book and you can't cherry pick certain statements and call the book evil.

Well what about:

• And do not dispute with the followers of the Book except by what is best, except those of them who act unjustly, and say: We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him do we submit. ^{[Qur'an 29:46]}

Or

• Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin Al-Ma'rûf and forbid Al-Munkar ; and they hasten in (all) good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are Al-Muttaqûn .(3:113-115)             
  

Or

• And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. '(3:199)'

Or

• Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . ^{[Qur'an 2:62]}

And I didn't even have to break out my Quran, I just pulled those from Wikipedia

I should have used a different term. "act of war" has political meaning outside what I meant to say.

For example, if China invaded the US, took over my town, I (along with thousands of other Americans), would grab a gun, and fight back. We would not be told we need to do this, and we would not be acting under government orders.

I would consider my actions an act of war. War was declared on something I felt strong enough to defend, and I took it upon myself to stand up for what I thought was right.

Like this, if China had not invaded my town, I would not have been driven to take such action. Now, if I was effective enough to kill 13 and wound 35 before the Chinese caught me, I would expect them to kill me (like I would like to have done with this man), but I would hope China was smart enough to realize it's a reaction to there invasion, and not just label me a nut job.

You're trying to deny that this is an act of violence whence it's the violence in it that's bothering you. Let's say the man refused to be deployed and protested using peaceful methods, a hunger strike for example. Something like that can't be called an act of violence, but I'm positive you wouldn't call it an act of war either.

And this man shouldn't be killed just because you want him dead. He broke the law, and should be dealt with according to state law. If death sentence is still legal there, then off he goes. If death sentence isn't, then he gets 13 life sentences. Why should he be treated any differently than any other nutless murderer?

I good, someone with an actual Quran.  I'll leave the rest of this to you then.

Haven't read a Quran way back until I did a survey on all religions and atheism in a general discovery of where if anywhere i fit in.

LOL, you're up against a few islamophobes. I don't see why some people think that all muslims are the same as the radical extremists. I have a few Muslim friends and they're really nice (as nice as any Christian or Jew).