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they do deserve respect just because they make money dose not make them the devil



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Talega said:
r505Matt said:
WheelStriker said:
Do they deserve respect? No. Not as a game company.

The thread is titled 'Does MS deserve ANY respect' so yes.

As a game company, what do you not respect? Then with that, do you then also lack respect for Sony for the same issues? And what about Nintendo, who pretty much admitted to leaving behind what used to be their core gamer, and focusing almost solely on another demographic? What will it take for you to respect a game company?

Mostly just curious, I respect all 3, they all do whatever they need to get ahead in the business world, and I can respect that.


The topic is about MS why u bring sony and nintendo here?

Because, if you read Wheelstriker's post, he was referring to them as a game company, so it only makes sense to talk about a few other game companies, and it made me curious what he respects and doesn't respect in a game company. I wanted to see if he has any respect for any of the other console manufacturers, or if his disrespect was aimed only at MS, and why.



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well Bill Gates praised Steve Jobs and said he is the nr1 guy in his views and also said when he worked at mac it was exciting and stuff
but he also took shots at him occasionally as well :)



Bokal said:
Squilliam said:
Bokal said:
Copying ideas is not the worst thing MS has done.

The post above me (scruffybunny) gave a lot reasons why MS should not been respected, but the worse clearly being how they make business crushing competition.

If you're interested, read the (old) Roberto Di Cosmo's book about it : Hijacking the world, the dark side of Microsoft

Whats the difference between Sony and Microsoft? The overall success they have had at being assholes. Just because Sony aren't as good at being assholes doesn't mean they wouldn't have acted exactly the same in exactly the same position.

Quite ironic since you're as much a PS3 advertisement as anything else here.

I know you didn't specifically bring up Sony as well, but your singature brings them into it.

I was talking about MS as a whole company. Actually, more about their computing division, since it's what it was in the beginning, a computing company.

As a computer engineer, and computing enthusiast, to me, MS is the worst thing that ever happened to computing.
You may disagree, that's my opinion.

And you brought Sony in the discussion, don't use my sig to hide behind it. My post was only related to MS.
But since you brought it, you really should get informed more about the way MS does business before comparing it to Sony's. Read a few things about it. Don't think it only get all the hate only because it's hype to hate at MS. They deserve more.

XD! really, I think you should get to know your precious $ony more. They have done some pretty disgusting things as a business. But then, if you knew anything at all about companies, you would realize that most companies are guilty of trying to screw over consumers just to increase their bottom line.

So...now, would you care to tell us exactly why MS is the worst thing to ever happen to computing? No really, I want to hear this!

BTW, Squilliam brought Sony into this because he was trying to figure out how biased you really are...thanks for showing your true colors! 



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First of all, 7 is excellent.

Second, yes, MS copied, so did Apple, so what?

Third, MS deserves as much respect as Sony, Apple, etc. In fact, I love MS. People can bash Gates all they want, but he is a good citizen and very charitable. Much moreso than, say, Steve Jobs. Wozniak, on the other hand, is a cool guy, and the REAL heart of Apple. Jobs is a wannabe.

Last, for those saying that MS ruined the industry, people said the same thing about Sony a decade and a half ago. Look how true that was.



most large companies are the same, ms is just the king of using other companies ideas, for the people who want to pull sony in to the mix, sony was the company who brought CDs in to the mix, made the first cd players, beta, technologhy that failed then came the vcr, the first camcarters, portible cd players , walkman, , sony did not copy any other companies on these ideas. when nintendo and sony started working on the video system, years ago, it was not sony who screwed nintendo, it was the other way around. sony is not perfect , no company is, nut you can not even compare ms and sony when it comes to ethics.



MS deserves respect for 2 things

1. The Idea of an operating system that wasn't so bundled with the system so that it was basically firmware or so obtusely complicated that it required a degree in computer science to understand. They commoditized system software.

2. Keeping a stable framework so that even most DOS programs (that were designed for a different kernel) can still run without recompiling them 20 years later. The fact that i can run a game like Odell down under for DOS under windows 7 is just incredible and the best part is what can't be run using the native DOS VM can be run in DOSBOX.



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Squilliam said:
If you disrespected a company for taking inspiration from another you wouldn't really respect Sony either would you Libellule? So since you still respect Sony then you either don't take this complaint seriously or you just wanted a reason to grind an axe against Microsoft.

Take your pick, I don't care which reason.

he could have another one... for all we know :/




              

Bokal said:

I was talking about MS as a whole company. Actually, more about their computing division, since it's what it was in the beginning, a computing company.

As a computer engineer, and computing enthusiast, to me, MS is the worst thing that ever happened to computing.
You may disagree, that's my opinion.

And you brought Sony in the discussion, don't use my sig to hide behind it. My post was only related to MS.
But since you brought it, you really should get informed more about the way MS does business before comparing it to Sony's. Read a few things about it. Don't think it only get all the hate only because it's hype to hate at MS. They deserve more.

Obviously someone with a signature like yours can't be objective enough to have an opinion which will be worth anything on this subject.



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