Strategyking92 said: I just some some of you atheists would get off your high horses. You don't see me going around shouting " y'all are going to burn in the eternal hell fire where your entrails will be torn out and strung about". So I would appreciate if you didn't call my faith a crock. Have some GD respect.

You, no, but that doesn't mean that others don't do that. Every group has its nutjobs who think they can only be right by sheer dismissal of other groups. And whether or not I would agree with it, it drives me nuts.

I personally am an atheist, I have no problem saying that. From my perspective, religious texts were written by mankind to try to explain the unexplained, and the thought of there being this one omnipitant being makes no sense to me. However, those who believe I can not call fools. Similar to the thoughts of scientology, I want concrete proof. (But the radicals in the church of scientology scare me.) Unfortunately, my thoughts are what make the most logical sense to me. There is nothing definitive to prove me right, or that I can use to prove someone else wrong. Conversely, I expect the same of the believers- there is nothing that can definitively prove them right and me wrong. I am open to the possibility that I may be wrong, since there is no proof for either side, but again, trying to look at the big picture makes it something I just can't see.

And so, while I can see and respect you regarding those atheists who you feel get in your face as annoying, how do you think we feel when the believers constantly try to condemn us for our beliefs? It's all personal opinion to me right now. And that can be neither right nor wrong.

OMG IM JELOUS!
i want the bible on my PS3 ARRHHHHH hopefully this is a Xbox timed Exclusive! if not il have to cave in and buy a new 360

I predict the bible will sell (35 million - Non catholic 360 gamers) copies.

dunno001 said: Strategyking92 said: I just some some of you atheists would get off your high horses. You don't see me going around shouting " y'all are going to burn in the eternal hell fire where your entrails will be torn out and strung about". So I would appreciate if you didn't call my faith a crock. Have some GD respect. You, no, but that doesn't mean that others don't do that. Every group has its nutjobs who think they can only be right by sheer dismissal of other groups. And whether or not I would agree with it, it drives me nuts. I personally am an atheist, I have no problem saying that. From my perspective, religious texts were written by mankind to try to explain the unexplained, and the thought of there being this one omnipitant being makes no sense to me. However, those who believe I can not call fools. Similar to the thoughts of scientology, I want concrete proof. (But the radicals in the church of scientology scare me.) Unfortunately, my thoughts are what make the most logical sense to me. There is nothing definitive to prove me right, or that I can use to prove someone else wrong. Conversely, I expect the same of the believers- there is nothing that can definitively prove them right and me wrong. I am open to the possibility that I may be wrong, since there is no proof for either side, but again, trying to look at the big picture makes it something I just can't see. And so, while I can see and respect you regarding those atheists who you feel get in your face as annoying, how do you think we feel when the believers constantly try to condemn us for our beliefs? It's all personal opinion to me right now. And that can be neither right nor wrong.

And I have no problem with you being an atheist. But the thing is this isn't about atheistic peoples as a group and them being persecuted.

 

As this thread goes, it is the opposite. The XBL Community bible game is not something being forced down atheist xbox gamers' throats. You do not have to buy it, you do not have to interact with it. And even if you have to see it in the storefront, who cares? Bibles are seen in bookstores all the time and they aren't trying to preach down to you. The majority of the atheists in this thread, however, decided to call my faith a crock, a fake, a sham....... I mean, wow. They just used this thread in the MICROSOFT FORUM, not the off topic forum where they usually bash chirstianity, to be assholes.

 

So you see, this thread isn't about atheists being oppressed by christians, as you can read in the other pages. But of christians further being made fun of by atheists.  So do not try and act like it's christians fault for this thread going to shit. And I do not give a shit if christians in real life preach to you. The internet is a safe haven for you, escpecially godless VGChartz. Atheists are constantly bashing christianity wherever it's believers are.

 

Strategyking92 said: dunno001 said: Strategyking92 said: I just some some of you atheists would get off your high horses. You don't see me going around shouting " y'all are going to burn in the eternal hell fire where your entrails will be torn out and strung about". So I would appreciate if you didn't call my faith a crock. Have some GD respect. You, no, but that doesn't mean that others don't do that. Every group has its nutjobs who think they can only be right by sheer dismissal of other groups. And whether or not I would agree with it, it drives me nuts. I personally am an atheist, I have no problem saying that. From my perspective, religious texts were written by mankind to try to explain the unexplained, and the thought of there being this one omnipitant being makes no sense to me. However, those who believe I can not call fools. Similar to the thoughts of scientology, I want concrete proof. (But the radicals in the church of scientology scare me.) Unfortunately, my thoughts are what make the most logical sense to me. There is nothing definitive to prove me right, or that I can use to prove someone else wrong. Conversely, I expect the same of the believers- there is nothing that can definitively prove them right and me wrong. I am open to the possibility that I may be wrong, since there is no proof for either side, but again, trying to look at the big picture makes it something I just can't see. And so, while I can see and respect you regarding those atheists who you feel get in your face as annoying, how do you think we feel when the believers constantly try to condemn us for our beliefs? It's all personal opinion to me right now. And that can be neither right nor wrong. And I have no problem with you being an atheist. But the thing is this isn't about atheistic peoples as a group and them being persecuted.   As this thread goes, it is the opposite. The XBL Community bible game is not something being forced down atheist xbox gamers' throats. You do not have to buy it, you do not have to interact with it. And even if you have to see it in the storefront, who cares? Bibles are seen in bookstores all the time and they aren't trying to preach down to you. The majority of the atheists in this thread, however, decided to call my faith a crock, a fake, a sham....... I mean, wow. They just used this thread in the MICROSOFT FORUM, not the off topic forum where they usually bash chirstianity, to be assholes.   So you see, this thread isn't about atheists being oppressed by christians, as you can read in the other pages. But of christians further being made fun of by atheists.  So do not try and act like it's christians fault for this thread going to shit. And I do not give a shit if christians in real life preach to you. The internet is a safe haven for you, escpecially godless VGChartz. Atheists are constantly bashing christianity wherever it's believers are.

*sighs* Way to completely misread my post. Obviously neither of our views are going to change, but rather, now I feel the need to point out the hypocracies in your post here.

First, where have I blamed Christians for this thread? Nowhere. Note my first paragraph: "Every group has its nutjobs." It's the nutjobs, regardless of which side they're on, that cause things to go somewhere in a handbasket. Whether it be the group I agree with (atheists) or not (Christians), both sides do asinine things.

Next, about being forced down our throats. Well, neither XBLA nor bookstores do that. However, there are countless times I've seen people or groups trying to force bibles upon others who go by. I don't care about going past it. I do object to it being forced upon me. Given that most of the ones who try to force beliefs upon others are Christian (But I am not saying the reverse, as most Christians do not.), I can see why there is some backlash against the group. Again, do I think it's right, no, but merely that I can see where it comes from. Conversely, your bias shows in the 3rd paragraph. Using your logic about not caring about others preaching to me IRL, I shouldn't care about any of them doing so to you. Sorry, but if one group can do something, every group can. Rather, I was trying to point out the inanity of both sides.

Lastly, I feel sorry that you felt a need to take a dig at both myself and VGChartz to try to make a (failed) point. Instead of you passing judgment, shouldn't you leave that up to your God to do? "Judge not lest ye be judged." (King James- 1, Matthew 7)

GOTY right here

nofingershaha said: As the one who made this thread, seriously this thread needs to DIE!!! Moderators, please lock it down, it no longer focuses on the original idea and has drifted away from anything that has to do with video games.

^This seriously^

PullusPardus said: nofingershaha said: As the one who made this thread, seriously this thread needs to DIE!!! Moderators, please lock it down, it no longer focuses on the original idea and has drifted away from anything that has to do with video games. I TOLD YOU HOMEBOY! cant touch this

lol, its out of my hands now

dunno001 said: Strategyking92 said: dunno001 said: You, no, but that doesn't mean that others don't do that. Every group has its nutjobs who think they can only be right by sheer dismissal of other groups. And whether or not I would agree with it, it drives me nuts. And so, while I can see and respect you regarding those atheists who you feel get in your face as annoying, how do you think we feel when the believers constantly try to condemn us for our beliefs? It's all personal opinion to me right now. And that can be neither right nor wrong. *sighs* Way to completely misread my post. Obviously neither of our views are going to change, but rather, now I feel the need to point out the hypocracies in your post here. First, where have I blamed Christians for this thread? Nowhere. Note my first paragraph: "Every group has its nutjobs." It's the nutjobs, regardless of which side they're on, that cause things to go somewhere in a handbasket. Whether it be the group I agree with (atheists) or not (Christians), both sides do asinine things. Next, about being forced down our throats. Well, neither XBLA nor bookstores do that. However, there are countless times I've seen people or groups trying to force bibles upon others who go by. I don't care about going past it. I do object to it being forced upon me. Given that most of the ones who try to force beliefs upon others are Christian (But I am not saying the reverse, as most Christians do not.), I can see why there is some backlash against the group. Again, do I think it's right, no, but merely that I can see where it comes from. Conversely, your bias shows in the 3rd paragraph. Using your logic about not caring about others preaching to me IRL, I shouldn't care about any of them doing so to you. Sorry, but if one group can do something, every group can. Rather, I was trying to point out the inanity of both sides. Lastly, I feel sorry that you felt a need to take a dig at both myself and VGChartz to try to make a (failed) point. Instead of you passing judgment, shouldn't you leave that up to your God to do? "Judge not lest ye be judged." (King James- 1, Matthew 7)

This. You talk about scientology (wtf?) then you say "well how do you think we feel.....". Just telling you this thread isn't about atheists being opressed, not in the slightest.And I do not care if you get preached against because I have to deal with it almost every time I go into a god damned thread on this website..So what I'm trying to say is to STOP WHINING. You have no reason to whine to me, when my beliefs are the one being hated on, thus me. But it's not even that, it's the way they have gone around doing it. 

It's like when a lower class white guy says to a black guy "you know, i hate being put down by the man". Now let's say this is during the 1860's... Are you getting the analogy?

So it appears the internet is not the best place to discuss these sort of things, because of the sensitivity. But it is the best place to taunt, hate, and anger people. The later being me, the first two what these preaching atheists have done. And because you are getting frusturated because you read something in my post I did not mean, you are now trying to preach to me. I'm not saying you are intolerant, just frusturated. It is wrong you tried to use my religion against me in that bible quote though. low blow.

The PS3 is doomed !!! Noooo !!!