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Samus Aran said:

That south park episode has nothing to do with my argument really, just a fun fact that they released a new episode that pretty much has the same subject as this discussion.

What I want is an actual quote of the Japanese government saying that the 2 atom bombs in Japan were over rated pieces of shit. Then I'll believe you.

Well, if it's lieing then why haven't I seen anything of this in my course "historical criticism" ?
If Hiroshima was over rated then it would have been in those books for sure. Why has America never dropped a 3rd atom bomb since 1945? If it's all over rated then why would they be so afraid of using it?

Now which one of us is being naive?  Believe the government over the science the goovernment produced?

Also, i don't think you actually understood what that episode was about... but whatever.

Why has America never dropped a 3rd atom bomb since 1945?  3 reasons.

1) Atomic hysteria, like what your exibiting... it's what kept us out of the Cold War.  The overexagerration of nuclear effects was a benefit.

2) Atomic bombs have gotten a LOT more atomic.  You actually don't believe the same nukes used then are the ones used now do you?

3) Against who?  The US hasn't fought any wars of "destruction" lately or evenly matched wars where such means needed to be utilized.  They've all been nation building wars that focused on pin point attacks against troops.

As for why you haven't seen it in "historical criticism".  Because this isn't a history issue.  It's a SCIENCE issue.  If you took a course on radiation you may well see criticism.  Try looking up deathtolls for ANY historical event.  They very by hundreds of thousands based pureley on politcs mostly.  You can tell the "true" numbers by looking at the research and who has done it the best.

 



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Serbia did a lot of horrible things, they committed genocides, they had concentration camps, they had way too much nationalistic feelings,etc)... Why does something need to be against America for it to be pictured as evil?

Samus Aran said:

Serbia did a lot of horrible things, they committed genocides, they had concentration camps, they had way too much nationalistic feelings,etc)... Why does something need to be against America for it to be pictured as evil?

There are plenty of horrible things America has done.  For example Kennedy helped the Iraqi's comit genocide back during the cold war because those being genocided were communists.

They pretty much destroyed the entire Industry of Jamacia, they overthrew democracy in Iran for a dictatorship.

I mean i could go on and on with this shit.

That doesn't change the fact that i'm talking from scientific truth, and your just going with fantasy because it fits your world view better.

 



Kasz216 said:
Samus Aran said:

That south park episode has nothing to do with my argument really, just a fun fact that they released a new episode that pretty much has the same subject as this discussion.

What I want is an actual quote of the Japanese government saying that the 2 atom bombs in Japan were over rated pieces of shit. Then I'll believe you.

Well, if it's lieing then why haven't I seen anything of this in my course "historical criticism" ?
If Hiroshima was over rated then it would have been in those books for sure. Why has America never dropped a 3rd atom bomb since 1945? If it's all over rated then why would they be so afraid of using it?

Now which one of us is being naive?  Believe the government over the science the goovernment produced?

Also, i don't think you actually understood what that episode was about... but whatever.

Why has America never dropped a 3rd atom bomb since 1945?  3 reasons.

1) Atomic hysteria, like what your exibiting... it's what kept us out of the Cold War.  The overexagerration of nuclear effects was a benefit.

2) Atomic bombs have gotten a LOT more atomic.  You actually don't believe the same nukes used then are the ones used now do you?

3) Against who?  The US hasn't fought any wars of "destruction" lately or evenly matched wars where such means needed to be utilized.  They've all been nation building wars that focused on pin point attacks against troops.

As for why you haven't seen it in "historical criticism".  Because this isn't a history issue.  It's a SCIENCE issue.  If you took a course on radiation you may well see criticism.  Try looking up deathtolls for ANY historical event.  They very by hundreds of thousands based pureley on politcs mostly.  You can tell the "true" numbers by looking at the research and who has done it the best.

 

1) Nuclear effects aren't over exaggerated and even if they were, then that's not really a bad thing(But you said that). The reason what kept America out of the Cold war was Russia also having Nuclear weapons. The risk of starting a nuclear war was too great, so they couldn't directly attack Russia(and the other way around)

2) No, I didn't actually believe that, but that doesn't mean the atom bombs that were dropped then caused no serious damage.

3) LOL? America dropped more bombs on South and North Korea during the cold war then the total amount of boms dropped in WWll. And I'm not even going to talk about Vietnam here. How is that not any wars of destruction?

About the course "historical criticism", it looks at events IN HISTORY critically. If Hiroshima was over exaggerated then it should be in there.



Kasz216 said:
Samus Aran said:

Serbia did a lot of horrible things, they committed genocides, they had concentration camps, they had way too much nationalistic feelings,etc)... Why does something need to be against America for it to be pictured as evil?

There are plenty of horrible things America has done.  For example Kennedy helped the Iraqi's comit genocide back during the cold war because those being genocided were communists.

They pretty much destroyed the entire Industry of Jamacia, they overthrew democracy in Iran for a dictatorship.

I mean i could go on and on with this shit.

That doesn't change the fact that i'm talking from scientific truth, and your just going with fantasy because it fits your world view better.

 

Dude, that wasn't even a reply against you, but against someone who asked why Serbia is the bad guy in games/movies/etc. How is what I said wrong?



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so why no hate for croatia, bosnia and albania who also did a genocide against the serbians ? croats killed 700.000 serbians in WW2




Who says there is no hate though? Have you actually been to those countries?

And as far as I'm concerned Germany invaded all those countries in WWll and those countries were freed because of Tito and since then they became one country called Yugoslavia.



i meant why are there no villains in western games that are from croatia, bosnia or albania ??? maybe because serbia has good relationship with russia?




Oh well, I don't live in America, so I don't really know an answer on that question :P

 

Yugoslavia was communist country after WWll, but Tito did not have a good relationship with Stalin because Tito didn't want to copy everything Stalin did.



not only that, serbians also saved some of american pilots in WW2 so why is there so much anti-serbian propaganda is beyond me