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Lord Flashheart said:
Senlis said:
Languages have different dialects (who knows if i spelled that correctly) over geographical boundaries.

I wouldn't say the English (as in UK) invented English, but they were the first to speak it (common sense knowledge coming into play).

I guess what I am saying that different pronunciations and spellings normally happen. Language is constantly changing. Even within the United States we have differences in the language.

Then who did invent it?

On a side similar to the OP I love it when Yanks ask us why we add the letter "R" to the word Ass?

I think the problem is in the word "invent".  English is more of an evolution of previous languages, so it is more like the English were the first to use it.




 

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Yes it's an evolution of different languages foreign and regional but to simplify it as the first to use it is nonsense.

How could we be the first to use it if it didn't exist. It was created by the English using what was around and standardised over time to form what we use today.

It was created on English shores hence the name of the Language is English. Someone didn't spot it sticking out of the ground when out looking for buried Saxon gold and decided to use it.

Most languages are formed the same way but no-one nit picks over them like they do with English.



Lord Flashheart said:

Yes it's an evolution of different languages foreign and regional but to simplify it as the first to use it is nonsense.

How could we be the fir st to use it if it didn't exist. It was created by the English using what was around and standardised over time to form what we use today.

It was created on English shores hence the name of the Language is English. Someone didn't spot it sticking out of the ground when out looking for buried Saxon gold and decided to use it.

Most languages are formed the same way but no-one nit picks over them like they do with English.

What I am saying is that the English people didn't just suddenly invent English like the wheel was invented.  It wasn't like some guy said "now we are going to call this a 'house' as opposed to what we were calling it yesterday".  People just talked to each other, and as time went on the languages changed.  That is how the U.K. was eventually speaking English.




 

You know what language is difficult? Latin.

Oh. My. God.

There are like 130 (!?) different forms of one verb, 12 different forms of ONE noun, a handful of exceptions, and too many different conjugations and noun declensions (a declension being all the different forms of one noun).

Ugh...



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

dtewi said:
You know what language is difficult? Latin.

Oh. My. God.

There are like 130 (!?) different forms of one verb, 12 different forms of ONE noun, a handful of exceptions, and too many different conjugations and noun declensions (a declension being all the different forms of one noun).

Ugh...

Latin can get away with it though because it's amazing

It's one of the original languages, besides grunts and moans of course.



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dtewi said:
You know what language is difficult? Latin.

Oh. My. God.

There are like 130 (!?) different forms of one verb, 12 different forms of ONE noun, a handful of exceptions, and too many different conjugations and noun declensions (a declension being all the different forms of one noun).

Ugh...

Latin...oh the days of 8th grade lol.



dtewi said:
You know what language is difficult? Latin.

Oh. My. God.

There are like 130 (!?) different forms of one verb, 12 different forms of ONE noun, a handful of exceptions, and too many different conjugations and noun declensions (a declension being all the different forms of one noun).

Ugh...

It is suspected that Vulgar Latin(the Latin that formed all romance languages and wasn't reconstructed), is actually much easier than Classical Latin, which is reconstructed btw. From what I can tell, most of the latin in writing is classical, while spoken latin is vulgar. That is because during those times, the literacy rate was obviously not up to par, and it was the minority educated patricians who were able to read and write. The majority of the people(Plebians) only spoke it, and when spoken it was in the form of vulgar latin. Latin is probably in the middle in terms of difficulty for a Native Speaker. I've been looking at Basque a lot lately, and it seems to be difficult for me due to it not being Indo-European. So a lot of things that you would assume to be 1:1  aren't. I've also been learning Japanese for a year, and while it is 1:1 I expected it not to be, so I'm progressing easily. Plus it has very simple grammer. Aparently some people boast Navajo as the hardest language to learn as a non-native. I would say the hardest languages for somebody coming from a European one, would definately be those of Amerindians. So Navajo might not be too off.



Senlis said:
Lord Flashheart said:

Yes it's an evolution of different languages foreign and regional but to simplify it as the first to use it is nonsense.

How could we be the fir st to use it if it didn't exist. It was created by the English using what was around and standardised over time to form what we use today.

It was created on English shores hence the name of the Language is English. Someone didn't spot it sticking out of the ground when out looking for buried Saxon gold and decided to use it.

Most languages are formed the same way but no-one nit picks over them like they do with English.

What I am saying is that the English people didn't just suddenly invent English like the wheel was invented.  It wasn't like some guy said "now we are going to call this a 'house' as opposed to what we were calling it yesterday".  People just talked to each other, and as time went on the languages changed.  That is how the U.K. was eventually speaking English.

Still invented by the English. Whether intentionally or not. Suddenly or over time. Lots of things have been invented those ways we don't dispute that just who the inventor was.

Do you say the same thing when someone says the Spanish invented Spanish?
There was a need to sit down and invent a standard Language in England due to each area having it's own dialect and even language so people all over the country could trade and travel so in that regards and well every other the English invented English.

I think you're being deliberately pedantic and nit picking and it doesn't aplly here.



Lord Flashheart said:
Senlis said:
Lord Flashheart said:

Yes it's an evolution of different languages foreign and regional but to simplify it as the first to use it is nonsense.

How could we be the fir st to use it if it didn't exist. It was created by the English using what was around and standardised over time to form what we use today.

It was created on English shores hence the name of the Language is English. Someone didn't spot it sticking out of the ground when out looking for buried Saxon gold and decided to use it.

Most languages are formed the same way but no-one nit picks over them like they do with English.

What I am saying is that the English people didn't just suddenly invent English like the wheel was invented.  It wasn't like some guy said "now we are going to call this a 'house' as opposed to what we were calling it yesterday".  People just talked to each other, and as time went on the languages changed.  That is how the U.K. was eventually speaking English.

Still invented by the English. Whether intentionally or not. Suddenly or over time. Lots of things have been invented those ways we don't dispute that just who the inventor was.

Do you say the same thing when someone says the Spanish invented Spanish?
There was a need to sit down and invent a standard Language in England due to each area having it's own dialect and even language so people all over the country could trade and travel so in that regards and well every other the English invented English.

I think you're being deliberately pedantic and nit picking and it doesn't aplly here.

Let me ask you. Are animals invented? Did the ancestor of humans invent them? No. English is always evolving, and therefore never "invented". Actually, you can arguing that a lot of the English citizens can't claim to have been with the language from the begginning because many have Celtic, or some other Non-Anglo Saxon ancestry. Even then, if the language really was invented, it wasn't invented by the current generation, so you can never really take dominance as it being more "correct".



AdventWolf said:
But this sounds weird :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media:En-uk-aluminium1.ogg

we are so used to saying like this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media:En-uk-aluminum.ogg

HAHAHA wtf is the 2nd one l,ao

 

it sounds like he is saying aluminous but with um insted os ous



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