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LordTheNightKnight said:
jman8 said:
NJ5 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
And watch for Microsoft fanboys to jump all over this as revenge for attacking Halo 3 for this, and watch Sony fanboys pretend this doesn't matter, even though they basically claimed, in those same Halo 3 attacks, that the PS3 would never have to upscale.

QFT. I hope that everyone who attacked the Xbox 360 for not having Halo 3 in 1080p comes out and finally admits that the PS3 is not leaps and bounds better than the 360.

As for me, I'll say the same thing as I always said - resolution is just one of the variables which affect graphical quality, so can we please stop with the "OMG1080PFTW".

Besides, most people don't have 1080p capable TVs and 1080p only matters in very big TVs. Either that or if you play with your nose bumped against the screen, which I hope you don't because it's bad for your eyes.

 


Um, if you're using this to show that the 360 is on par with the PS3 then you're just wrong. Halo did not hit true 720p, while GT5 Prologue Demo didn't hit true 1080p. Both games are using some pretty advanced graphical effects like HDR lighting, but GT5 is doing it at a higher resolution. So wouldn't that mean that the PS3 is in fact a step ahead of the 360?

Note: I really don't know which system is more powerful, nor do I care all that much as long as my games look and play beautifully. I'm just saying you're argument comparing Halo to GT5 doesn't work to show that the two systems are on par.


It's not abbout which system is on par. It's about using BS to claim a system is weak.

BTW, Gran Turismo has a higher resolution due to the nature of racing games versus FPS, so it doesn't prove the PS3 is stronger.


I totally agree. Both systems are quite powerful and it's pretty impossible to figure out how they compare to each other. Maybe by the end of the generation we'll be better able to figure that out, but as of right now, both systems are pulling off some impressive games.



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DMeisterJ said:

"I wouldn't care if the res was 100X100 if it can still look that good."
(...)
"when the full game comes out and it's in 1080p (you know polyphony won't let us down)"


So you don't care about 1080p, but if it's not 1080p they'd have let you down? Make up your mind!

 



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NJ5 said:

DMeisterJ said:

"I wouldn't care if the res was 100X100 if it can still look that good."
(...)
"when the full game comes out and it's in 1080p (you know polyphony won't let us down)"


So you don't care about 1080p, but if it's not 1080p they'd have let you down? Make up your mind!

 


Thanks for referencing that, I myself was trying to figure that one out. 



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jman8 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
jman8 said:
NJ5 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
And watch for Microsoft fanboys to jump all over this as revenge for attacking Halo 3 for this, and watch Sony fanboys pretend this doesn't matter, even though they basically claimed, in those same Halo 3 attacks, that the PS3 would never have to upscale.

QFT. I hope that everyone who attacked the Xbox 360 for not having Halo 3 in 1080p comes out and finally admits that the PS3 is not leaps and bounds better than the 360.

As for me, I'll say the same thing as I always said - resolution is just one of the variables which affect graphical quality, so can we please stop with the "OMG1080PFTW".

Besides, most people don't have 1080p capable TVs and 1080p only matters in very big TVs. Either that or if you play with your nose bumped against the screen, which I hope you don't because it's bad for your eyes.

 


Um, if you're using this to show that the 360 is on par with the PS3 then you're just wrong. Halo did not hit true 720p, while GT5 Prologue Demo didn't hit true 1080p. Both games are using some pretty advanced graphical effects like HDR lighting, but GT5 is doing it at a higher resolution. So wouldn't that mean that the PS3 is in fact a step ahead of the 360?

Note: I really don't know which system is more powerful, nor do I care all that much as long as my games look and play beautifully. I'm just saying you're argument comparing Halo to GT5 doesn't work to show that the two systems are on par.


It's not abbout which system is on par. It's about using BS to claim a system is weak.

BTW, Gran Turismo has a higher resolution due to the nature of racing games versus FPS, so it doesn't prove the PS3 is stronger.


I totally agree. Both systems are quite powerful and it's pretty impossible to figure out how they compare to each other. Maybe by the end of the generation we'll be better able to figure that out, but as of right now, both systems are pulling off some impressive games.


The closest analogy I found is the Neo-Geo versus the SNES. The SNES has more RAM, while the Neo-Geo has a much stronger processor. So Neo-Geo games have stronger graphics (barring SNES enhancement chips), but the SNES is still pretty close.

With the PS3 versus 360, we have a similar situation. The 360 has more memory, and a slightly stronger GPU, while the PS3 has a much stronger CPU. It's harder to get the most power out of that CPU than with the Neo-Geo, but with proper use, the PS3 will likely have the strongest graphics, with the 360 coming in a close second.



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GT5 will have native 1080p/720p support when released.

And I thought ZERO 360 games can run in 720p/1080p native? That it's just impossible.



@Loller

Some 360 games run at native 720p

OT: GT HD was native 1080p at 60fps, why wouldnt GT5 be?



 

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zackblue said:
@Loller

Some 360 games run at native 720p

OT: GT HD was native 1080p at 60fps, why wouldnt GT5 be?

Do you want us to give you some possible reasons? That's all we can do when the game is still in development. A possible reason might be:

- they decided to do some improvements in the graphical engine, but realized that they caused framerate problems when ran at 1080p. After some testing, they realized that those improvements were worth it even at the expense of reduced resolution, so they went for it.

There you go!

 



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