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Avinash_Tyagi on 11 October 2009
Kasz216 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
I think what's funnier is the republican whining over the prize being awarded to Obama, even if you don't think he deserves it, trying to criticize him for receiving an award he wasn't even trying to get just makes them seem petty and without class.

What about the 10's of millions of Democrats that are pissed off about it?


  Pissed off about the GOP's lack of class, I don't see anything wrong about it, why shouldn't they be upset that the GOP is playing partisan politics at a time when Americans should be working together to solve the problems we continue to have.  The GOP has been the party of No long enough.

No, pissed off that Obama won this award.

 

Thinking it's wrong to give Obama this award, goes across party lines. Everyone thinks he has not done enough, not just the GOP.


  Most normal Americans aren't pissed off that Obama won the award, mostly its republicans who seem pissed, sorry, the rest of us just feel that he doesn't deserve it yet, but aren't upset about it, just surprised

I'd like to think a lot of democrats wouldn't be so myopic and ignorant of the outside world.

If you can't be mad about REAL candidates not winning an award who have accomplished and gone through so much more... it really just reflects negativly on you not being able to look past your own country and self interests.

 

Ah, but its not me who picked the winner, nor even people in my country, so I really don't care much, nor do I begrudge him winning it.  If he had won it by crooked means and didn't deserve it, then yes I'd be upset, but he himself was surprised by the result.



 

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DaBuddahN on 11 October 2009
Kasz216 said:

So... your argument is basically.

He should win the Nobel Prize because he's not George W Bush.  In that case... pretty much every US president should be getting a Nobel Prize from here on out.

When else did the Nobel Prize people get it wrong? 1994. 

Also the complete snub of Gandi... who deserved a Nobel prize possibly more then anybody ever.

There are tons of other more qualified candidates out there.

Also... you know these aren't the same people all the time right?  The Nobel Prize commission changes.

You do know that the year they were going to award Gandhi the Nobel prize was the year he died right? Also, due to this fact, the year he died, the Nobel prize was awarded to NO ONE, and their reason was that the was no living person on Earth who deserved the award (since the Gandhi died). So no, they didn't really snub Gandhi, he died. Although, I, personally, would have made an entire ceremony in his honor and give him the prize, but that's just me. 



Kasz216 on 11 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Kasz216 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
I think what's funnier is the republican whining over the prize being awarded to Obama, even if you don't think he deserves it, trying to criticize him for receiving an award he wasn't even trying to get just makes them seem petty and without class.

What about the 10's of millions of Democrats that are pissed off about it?


  Pissed off about the GOP's lack of class, I don't see anything wrong about it, why shouldn't they be upset that the GOP is playing partisan politics at a time when Americans should be working together to solve the problems we continue to have.  The GOP has been the party of No long enough.

No, pissed off that Obama won this award.

 

Thinking it's wrong to give Obama this award, goes across party lines. Everyone thinks he has not done enough, not just the GOP.


  Most normal Americans aren't pissed off that Obama won the award, mostly its republicans who seem pissed, sorry, the rest of us just feel that he doesn't deserve it yet, but aren't upset about it, just surprised

I'd like to think a lot of democrats wouldn't be so myopic and ignorant of the outside world.

If you can't be mad about REAL candidates not winning an award who have accomplished and gone through so much more... it really just reflects negativly on you not being able to look past your own country and self interests.

 

Ah, but its not me who picked the winner, nor even people in my country, so I really don't care much, nor do I begrudge him winning it.  If he had won it by crooked means and didn't deserve it, then yes I'd be upset, but he himself was surprised by the result.

your not supposed to be mad at Obama.  Your supposed to be mad at the selection committee.



Kasz216 on 11 October 2009
DaBuddahN said:
Kasz216 said:

So... your argument is basically.

He should win the Nobel Prize because he's not George W Bush.  In that case... pretty much every US president should be getting a Nobel Prize from here on out.

When else did the Nobel Prize people get it wrong? 1994. 

Also the complete snub of Gandi... who deserved a Nobel prize possibly more then anybody ever.

There are tons of other more qualified candidates out there.

Also... you know these aren't the same people all the time right?  The Nobel Prize commission changes.

You do know that the year they were going to award Gandhi the Nobel prize was the year he died right? Also, due to this fact, the year he died, the Nobel prize was awarded to NO ONE, and their reason was that the was no living person on Earth who deserved the award (since the Gandhi died). So no, they didn't really snub Gandhi, he died. Although, I, personally, would have made an entire ceremony in his honor and give him the prize, but that's just me. 

Actually that's not correct.

He was twice nominated before and rejected because they thought Gandhi was being duplicitous and that he was a patriot above all else.

 

It's more correct to say nobody got the award because Gandhi died.  He died even before the nominations ended. 


If alive... it would be surprising if he'd won.  Europeons and Americans almost exclusivly won Peace Prizes back then.

I mean... if he didn't do enough in 1947... when he was rejected for possibly being a liar and being a patriot first who only cared about indians...

what in 1948 changed their mind?  


Additionally Gandhi is just the most prominent of those snubbed.  Another could example is Eleanor Roosevelet who was an amazing rights worker and who worked as the "consious" of the most powerful man in Washington... who was actually somewhat meanspirited.

People credit FDR with stuff like the New Deal.

Truth is, he was a strict ultraconservative Hoover like Republican until Elenor Roosevelt got ahold of him.



Nintendo Fan Girl on 12 October 2009

one word....'No'



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FaRmLaNd on 12 October 2009

Absolutely not.