ph4nt said:
JamesCizuz said: 600$ was not a ridiculous price. Sony gave you a 950$ machine, which cost them 950$ EACH to make, for 600$ at first. Then people had the fucking gall to say they were putting a horrible price point on it. It made me sick how spoiled people are. |
I don't give a damn how much it cost to make the machine, it's their fault it costs that much to make in the first place.
If Sony made the PS4 $1200 would you buy it?
Probably not...
If Sony said it costs them $2000 to make the system, now would you buy it? Why is Sony making money on a system important to your purchase?
You act like Sony is a charitable organization, the reason they didn't price it higher is because they obviously knew their asking price of $600 was already ridiculous for a console.
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Wow are people that stupid. Price does not matter. What matters is what it is.
If they released the PS3 at 200$, they would of won format war and be hitting around 100million units by now, or can't produce enough. Of course more people buy it when it's at a lower cost.
360 cost 700$ to produce, they sold for a loss, so did PS3. So did PS2, gamecube, n64, PS1, infact most to all consoles except WII.
They could of released PS3 at 900$, and people would of bought it. They didn't because Sony knows at a lower pricepoint, more will buy it. However they don't want to lose too much, normally 30% loss means nothing, they'll make it up in game sales and lower production costs.
The PS3 unlike earlier generations was much more expensive. PS2 launched around 300$, however it cost 500$ to produce a unit at the time. PS1 had 500$ production cost to. Sony decided this time to not only bring 1 or 2 new technologies to the forefront but many. PS2 had D-RAM and DVD, PS1 had CDs(not first console, but first to actually bring them in to mass public appeal) however PS3 is bringing so many new, expensive as hell stuff. The CELL of course, Blu-ray, XDR memory, at the time they put the actual CPU and GPU of the PS2 in the PS3 so it could do full PS2 BC etc etc.
They could release the next console for 1200$, but it better be worth it. If it is, it'll sell. Early buyers do look at things like how much it costs to make what it has etc. PS3 was the cheapest BD player at 600$ when it launched etc.
Next generation we know PS4 will not be launched at 600$. We hit the point where graphics are beginning to hit realism standards that a major upgrade is not needed. PS4 will be using CELL technology, and BD, which is stated by Sony.
Advantages of BD being 4.5X the speed of DVDs, and able to hold up to 400 gigs of data. PS4 will likely ship with a 12x BD drive, unlike the 2x BD drive in PS3(equal to a 9x DVD drive, which is why slow read times compared to the 12x DVD drive in 360). PS4 will ship with a better CELL, possibly the CELL X2 which consists of 14 SPEs(clocked higher) and 2 main cores(Clocked higher)(CELL is 7 SPEs clocked at 700 Mhz each, and a 1.4 Ghz PPC core). GPU could be something like a upgraded RSX. It'll ship with either double or 4x the memory. 512 XDR or 1024 XDR, and 512 to 1024 GDDR5(GDDR3 is what PS3 uses now). With that set up, loading times would be almost null, and games would far exceed crysis at highest detail.
In 2015, that'll all probably cost around 700$ in production, and launch for around 400-500$. Sony seems to want to push blu-ray and CELL, they are heavy into both technologies and keep stating they want to push them even further in the future. Though all speculation, it is most likely.