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Soleron said:
trent44 said:
Soleron said:
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Well I honestly don't know to much about building computers, so I don't know if i would feel comfortable taking on the feat of contructing one myself.

Btw, i think you forgot to include some stuff like an Operating System, a monitor, a Fan/Heat sink, a memory card reader, an ethernet/wireless/bluetooth card, a sound card, a mouse, and a keyboard. Also I was thinking of getting a tv tuner and an extra dvd drive but still havent decided...

Building a computer is easy, there are numerous guides on the web. If not, a friend or local computer shop can do it.

OS, mouse, keyboard, monitor - Use your existing ones.
Fan/heatsink - comes with CPU and/or case.
Memory card reader - do you need one? Really? Just get a USB key or external hard-drive.
Sound card - Integrated sound is good enough. Really.
Ethernet - should be on motherboard.
Wireless etc. - transfer from old computer if you have one, are you using a USB dongle.

I just have a Laptop right now (no accessories) and this will be my first desktop, so I don't have anything to reuse. I didn't know about the ethernet being on the mother board or the fan built in the case, so I am learning. What component is integrated sound incorporated on?



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Found some cheaper desktops, are these pretty good specs?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883241007

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113104

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227165



What do you intend to use the computer for?

Again, none of those are *bad*, but you can build something yourself for cheaper.



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Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
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Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
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trent44 said:
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I just have a Laptop right now (no accessories) and this will be my first desktop, so I don't have anything to reuse. I didn't know about the ethernet being on the mother board or the fan built in the case, so I am learning. What component is integrated sound incorporated on?

OK. Add $150 for a monitor, $100 for OEM Windows Vista w/ 7 coupon, and $50 for keyboard and mouse. That's $820 so still cheaper than the comparably spec'd system you linked which was $1089 if you add a similar monitor [the Newegg one in the first post].

All of the other options you've linked apart from the Newegg one have really poor graphics that won't play games [The GMA 3100 one will barely run the Windows desktop].

Guide to buying, whether you buy OEM or build one:

Graphics card: Either Radeon HD48xx OR Radeon HD58xx OR Geforce GTS/GTX2xx. Nothing else is worth buying, seriously, do not try and go below that. The Radeon cards tend to be faster at the same prices as the Geforce at the moment.

For (gaming) CPUs in your price range you want Athlon II X4, Phenom II X3, Phenom II X4, Core 2 Quad Q8xxx/9xxx, or Core i5 7xx/i7 8xx/i7 9xx. Nothing less. Below $190 the AMD ones are cheaper than similarly performing Intel ones, and above $190 Intel is cheaper than AMD. But any of them I listed will not bottleneck games.

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Sound is integrated on motherboard. Most cases come with fans, some don't though so check.

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As jefforange said, exactly what do you want to do with the computer? What games, applications, settings and resolutions?



trent44 said:
Soleron said:

Don't buy prebuilts; you are being ripped off. You can pay half that price for something with the same performance on games.

CPU: Phenom II X4 945 ($170)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 4870 1GB ($125 w/ rebate)
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333 ($71)
Motherboard: ATX 770V motherboard ($70)
HDD: 640GB ($55)
ATX case plus >500W PSU ($50)
DVD burner ($30)
Total: $571, matches any machine you listed in games.

CPU: Core i5 750 ($200)
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 5870 ($380, inc. 2 free games)
RAM: 4GB DDR3-1333 ($71)
Motherboard: micro-ATX P55 motherboard ($110)
HDD: 640GB ($65)
micro-ATX case plus >500W PSU ($50)
DVD burner ($30)
Total: $906, outclasses any machine you listed, will play anything on max settings at at least 1920x1200 if not 2560x1600.

 

Well I honestly don't know to much about building computers, so I don't know if i would feel comfortable taking on the feat of contructing one myself.

Btw, i think you forgot to include some stuff like an Operating System, a monitor, a Fan/Heat sink, a memory card reader, an ethernet/wireless/bluetooth card, a sound card, a mouse, and a keyboard. Also I was thinking of getting a tv tuner and an extra dvd drive but still havent decided...

Honestly, if you can put together Lego blocks, you can build a computer.



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largedarryl said:

Honestly, if you can put together Lego blocks, you can build a computer.

This.  It isn't complicated at all, really.  Just you have to be a little bit more careful than with Lego.



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My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
Wii Friend Code: 2772 8804 2626 5138 Steam: jefforange89
jefforange89 said:
largedarryl said:

Honestly, if you can put together Lego blocks, you can build a computer.

This.  It isn't complicated at all, really.  Just you have to be a little bit more careful than with Lego.

I was going to use a model plane as an analogy, but a model plane is 100 times more complicated than computer assembly. 

Although, if you are too gentle, you will probably never get the RAM fully seated.



Yeah, I had that problem myself the first time around.



Wii/PC/DS Lite/PSP-2000 owner, shameless Nintendo and AMD fanboy.

My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
Display: Triple ASUS 25.5" 1920x1200 monitors
Sound: HT Omega Striker 7.1 sound card,
Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
Input: Logitech G5 mouse,
Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard
Wii Friend Code: 2772 8804 2626 5138 Steam: jefforange89

I had the good fortune of having RAM problems when I was adding RAM to an older computer, so the problem was easy to find. I wouldn't want to be new to building PC's and have POST beep alarms because you didn't know how hard you really need to press on RAM.

@OP, if you have any second thoughts about building your own PC, I would suggest running through some How to youtube videos. You will be able to greatly increase your performance vs price by building your own PC. I can guarantee that all pre-built gaming PC's are not worth what they charge.



To minimize risk inserting the RAM, it's better to have as uniform support under the mobo as possible, either using all the screw possible to fix it to the case or backframe or using a suitable work top and mounting the RAM before fixing the mobo to the case.
Alas screws and spacers for the mobo are often in short supply with cases, better buying some spares.



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