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Ryusuken said:
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ selnor

Those videos aren't doing you any favors.

I can admit Forza has better physics, damage and customization. Why can't you admit GT5 has better graphics?


LOL. Dude I dont know what your watching. It's pretty clear to me that Forza 3 looks more real. The colours are better during gameplay to. I'm only talking gameplay. Because GT5 looks significantly different to it's trailers and CGI E309. Forza 3 has proven all along its screenshots were never bullshots. GT5 hasn't.

Alright then, so here's your argument in a nutshell.

"LOL, LOL, every screen of GT5 is teh CGI/bullshots/replay LOL GT5 always look better when direct comparison is made cuz all GT5 are bullshot, LOL look at tiny crappy quality off screen footage LOL GT5 still look better but trees are more real looking to me than buildings so Forza win, LOL"

So what your saying is dont go off gameplay, just go off screens and replays. Even then You can find good shots and bad shots of both games. The majority of time is spent in gameplay, so that is where the graphics matter. Is it not?

@ Ryusuken:

They aren't biased assumptions. They are facts. Polyphony have always put in alot of effects to replays and photomode.

"it really is breathtaking at times, and all at 1080p and 60fps (although replays are half that, with added extra effects like motion blur)."

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2008/03/27/gran-turismo-5-prologue/

If you cant see a difference between the actual gameplay footage and the tribute video made by Polyphony, than there really is no end to fanboyism. It's like me calling the following all ingame footage of Forza 3. Notice how this looks just as good as the Polyphony enhanced GT video of the Ferrari. Extra reflections, depth of field etc. Cmon man. I dont use this video to say how good Forza 3 looks. Even if it is based on the game engine. LOL.

 

 

Your 'facts' may change, unless you came from the future and saw the final product. The entire community knows how biased you are, no questions asked. My mind is open about this, and I will wait to compare both when they are out, spec by spec, and not by fanboyish eyes.

I forgot...some time ago you had the following (or something like it) in you sig, about your avatar:

"A god behing the wheels"

Just shows that when you like to use definitives, you're likely to get frustated in the end, for Hamilton prooved to be a mere human, specially when McLarren didnt provide a competitive car this year(lets not forget that Ferrari's mistakes did deliver Hamilton the championship last year, and that is a FACT no fanboy can argue about withou taking the hole lot of mistakes commited by Ferrari, mistakes/errors never commited  when Schumacher was driving for them).

Why do I use this? Simple: When both are out, i.e. in our hands to play, and IF GT5 prooves to be superior, you'll be prooven wrong, yet again, and then become a target for retribution on your assumptions, and will have a flame war in here and so on, nothing constructive, only payback for big mouths and egos going around. Just saying here. Keep your opinions, but before going all out on something you dont know for sure, wait for fair(REAL) facts to do a comparison.

Maybe you should tell that to the mass amount of Sony boys who have entered a thread and brought GT5 here which even in the op had nothing about GT5. And dont get started on Hamilton. Last year Mclaren and the stewards cost him more than 30 points.



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selnor said:
Ryusuken said:
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
selnor said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
@ selnor

Those videos aren't doing you any favors.

I can admit Forza has better physics, damage and customization. Why can't you admit GT5 has better graphics?


LOL. Dude I dont know what your watching. It's pretty clear to me that Forza 3 looks more real. The colours are better during gameplay to. I'm only talking gameplay. Because GT5 looks significantly different to it's trailers and CGI E309. Forza 3 has proven all along its screenshots were never bullshots. GT5 hasn't.

Alright then, so here's your argument in a nutshell.

"LOL, LOL, every screen of GT5 is teh CGI/bullshots/replay LOL GT5 always look better when direct comparison is made cuz all GT5 are bullshot, LOL look at tiny crappy quality off screen footage LOL GT5 still look better but trees are more real looking to me than buildings so Forza win, LOL"

So what your saying is dont go off gameplay, just go off screens and replays. Even then You can find good shots and bad shots of both games. The majority of time is spent in gameplay, so that is where the graphics matter. Is it not?

@ Ryusuken:

They aren't biased assumptions. They are facts. Polyphony have always put in alot of effects to replays and photomode.

"it really is breathtaking at times, and all at 1080p and 60fps (although replays are half that, with added extra effects like motion blur)."

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2008/03/27/gran-turismo-5-prologue/

If you cant see a difference between the actual gameplay footage and the tribute video made by Polyphony, than there really is no end to fanboyism. It's like me calling the following all ingame footage of Forza 3. Notice how this looks just as good as the Polyphony enhanced GT video of the Ferrari. Extra reflections, depth of field etc. Cmon man. I dont use this video to say how good Forza 3 looks. Even if it is based on the game engine. LOL.

 

 

Your 'facts' may change, unless you came from the future and saw the final product. The entire community knows how biased you are, no questions asked. My mind is open about this, and I will wait to compare both when they are out, spec by spec, and not by fanboyish eyes.

I forgot...some time ago you had the following (or something like it) in you sig, about your avatar:

"A god behing the wheels"

Just shows that when you like to use definitives, you're likely to get frustated in the end, for Hamilton prooved to be a mere human, specially when McLarren didnt provide a competitive car this year(lets not forget that Ferrari's mistakes did deliver Hamilton the championship last year, and that is a FACT no fanboy can argue about withou taking the hole lot of mistakes commited by Ferrari, mistakes/errors never commited  when Schumacher was driving for them).

Why do I use this? Simple: When both are out, i.e. in our hands to play, and IF GT5 prooves to be superior, you'll be prooven wrong, yet again, and then become a target for retribution on your assumptions, and will have a flame war in here and so on, nothing constructive, only payback for big mouths and egos going around. Just saying here. Keep your opinions, but before going all out on something you dont know for sure, wait for fair(REAL) facts to do a comparison.

Maybe you should tell that to the mass amount of Sony boys who have entered a thread and brought GT5 here which even in the op had nothing about GT5. And dont get started on Hamilton. Last year Mclaren and the stewards cost him more than 30 points.

That goes for EVERYONE, the fact that I quoted you came from the 'facts' you like to post as being truth and not your opinions on the matters, wich ends up inciting them to come out with their 'facts' as well. Anyway, Hamilton didnt get any points lost because of MacLaren's controversies or mistakes (out of the race track), he only retired one race, the other problems I dont remember...:

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/09/11/f1.spygate/

So, my point still stand. He deserved 2007, but freak out because of the pressure, and if not by the fact that Glock coundt keep driving because of his tires (its was raining a monson in Sao Paulo that day, I WAS THERE!) he would've lost that one too. Driver by driver, Massa deserved 2008 more than Hamilton. Just how luck goes...or maybe not...these last few F1 championships are something that 'look' likes are arranged or something....just my opinion.