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scottie on 17 September 2009

When MS advertise 120 GB, they actually mean

120 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes

However, the 360 reports in terms of

x * 1024 * 1024 * 1024

Where x is the actual number of gigabytes

x turns out to be 111.76 GB. Thus there is 8.24 GB of 'lost space'

With a 20 gb harddrive, the 'lost space' will be 1/6th as much, because the harddrive is 1/6th as much.

Therefore, when you change over, it is expected that you will 'lose' 6.87 GB.

This works out that you should have 93.13 GB of space left on your harddrive, not 90.7 But of course, there was already stuff pre-installed on your 120 gb harddrive. Is the system software the same in both cases?



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a12331 on 17 September 2009
scottie said:
When MS advertise 120 GB, they actually mean

120 * 1000 * 1000 * 1000 bytes

However, the 360 reports in terms of

x * 1024 * 1024 * 1024

Where x is the actual number of gigabytes

x turns out to be 111.76 GB. Thus there is 8.24 GB of 'lost space'

With a 20 gb harddrive, the 'lost space' will be 1/6th as much, because the harddrive is 1/6th as much.

Therefore, when you change over, it is expected that you will 'lose' 6.87 GB.

This works out that you should have 93.13 GB of space left on your harddrive, not 90.7 But of course, there was already stuff pre-installed on your 120 gb harddrive. Is the system software the same in both cases?

this is the real reason why you lose the space, the 1000 mb = 1 gb is a way to rip consumers off, sad part is that operating systems are now reading a gb as 1000 mb, snow leopard. 



scottie on 17 September 2009
a12331 said:
scottie said:

this is the real reason why you lose the space, the 1000 mb = 1 gb is a way to rip consumers off, sad part is that operating systems are now reading a gb as 1000 mb, snow leopard. 

And rightly so

 

Sure it would be ideal if they used the Gibibyte, and refered to it as such. But surely using the gigabyte and refering to it as the gigabyte (ie snow leopard) is better than using the gibibyte and refering to it as a gigabyte (Tiger, Leopard, XP, Vista, Windows 7)?



a12331 on 17 September 2009
scottie said:
a12331 said:
scottie said:

this is the real reason why you lose the space, the 1000 mb = 1 gb is a way to rip consumers off, sad part is that operating systems are now reading a gb as 1000 mb, snow leopard. 

And rightly so

 

Sure it would be ideal if they used the Gibibyte, and refered to it as such. But surely using the gigabyte and refering to it as the gigabyte (ie snow leopard) is better than using the gibibyte and refering to it as a gigabyte (Tiger, Leopard, XP, Vista, Windows 7)?

i dont know about that, i mean binary is the the format that computers read, and under binary 1 gb = 1024 mb



scottie on 17 September 2009
a12331 said:
scottie said:
a12331 said:
scottie said:

this is the real reason why you lose the space, the 1000 mb = 1 gb is a way to rip consumers off, sad part is that operating systems are now reading a gb as 1000 mb, snow leopard. 

And rightly so

 

Sure it would be ideal if they used the Gibibyte, and refered to it as such. But surely using the gigabyte and refering to it as the gigabyte (ie snow leopard) is better than using the gibibyte and refering to it as a gigabyte (Tiger, Leopard, XP, Vista, Windows 7)?

i dont know about that, i mean binary is the the format that computers read, and under binary 1 gb = 1024 mb

The gigabyte is an SI-multiple of the unit byte for digital information storage. Since the giga- prefix means 109, gigabyte means 1000000000bytes (10003, 109).

However, this term is often colloquially used for or confused with the concept of a gibibyte, meaning 1073741824bytes (10243, 230).

- wiki

 

 



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COKTOE on 17 September 2009
superchunk said:
reask said:
Yes I hear what you are saying but my 20 gig was already doing that.

As the HDD gets larger so does the internally used space.

So while a 20GB would only be missing 1GB or so, a 100GB is missing 10GB or so, a 500GB would be missing 30GB or so, and so on. Its all relative.


Just to be clear, I'm pretty ignorant of this phenomenon and am in no way disputing what you're saying, but that makes no sense. Why would a larger HD need tu use more space to function?



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a12331 on 17 September 2009
scottie said:
a12331 said:
scottie said:
a12331 said:
scottie said:

this is the real reason why you lose the space, the 1000 mb = 1 gb is a way to rip consumers off, sad part is that operating systems are now reading a gb as 1000 mb, snow leopard. 

And rightly so

 

Sure it would be ideal if they used the Gibibyte, and refered to it as such. But surely using the gigabyte and refering to it as the gigabyte (ie snow leopard) is better than using the gibibyte and refering to it as a gigabyte (Tiger, Leopard, XP, Vista, Windows 7)?

i dont know about that, i mean binary is the the format that computers read, and under binary 1 gb = 1024 mb

The gigabyte is an SI-multiple of the unit byte for digital information storage. Since the giga- prefix means 109, gigabyte means 1000000000bytes (10003, 109).

However, this term is often colloquially used for or confused with the concept of a gibibyte, meaning 1073741824bytes (10243, 230).

- wiki

 

 

However, due to historical usage in computer-related fields it is still often used to represent 220(1024×1024 or 1048576) bytes

wiki for megabyte

lol the main reason i like one gb = 1024 mb is because we can use one term and it would match ram. 



scottie on 17 September 2009

I agree that in computing terms, 1024 is more useful. I just think we should correctly call it a GiB, even if the name sounds a bit silly :P



a12331 on 17 September 2009
scottie said:
I agree that in computing terms, 1024 is more useful. I just think we should correctly call it a GiB, even if the name sounds a bit silly :P

i understand how you feel, but only microsoft can make people say that, as well as all the hard drive companies



halogamer1989 on 17 September 2009

Space for the FATX file system and cache.