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inverted3reality on 08 September 2009
JamesCizuz said:
inverted3reality said:
JamesCizuz said:
Read faster isn't a problem.

DVD reads 6x faster then CDs. Blu-ray Reads 4.5x faster then DVDs.

1x BD drive is the same as a 4.5x DVD drive.

There is a 2x drive in PS3, 4x drives exist, and in context, 8x, 12x, 16x are all possible for the future. Even higher.


Difference between BD and DVD is that BD can read at it's top speed, constantly, DVD has a variable read speed, a 12x drive reads on average at 8x, between 4 and 12. BD doesn't, it's at top speed, when draw is occurring of course.

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Khuutra on 08 September 2009
Maelstrome said:
i would like flash memory games. i sort of wish cards would replace discs entirely.

This is a good idea and I like it. I don't know if "Flash" is the right word, though?

Basically a return to carts, but smaller.



everdom on 08 September 2009
Khuutra said:
Maelstrome said:
i would like flash memory games. i sort of wish cards would replace discs entirely.

This is a good idea and I like it. I don't know if "Flash" is the right word, though?

Basically a return to carts, but smaller.

Mmm yeah flash isnt exactly the word im looking for... Basically anything thats solid state! Truly you'd never have to install a game on your hard drive because it would read faster from the cartridge and load times would be almost non-existant!



Khuutra on 08 September 2009
everdom said:
Khuutra said:
Maelstrome said:
i would like flash memory games. i sort of wish cards would replace discs entirely.

This is a good idea and I like it. I don't know if "Flash" is the right word, though?

Basically a return to carts, but smaller.

Mmm yeah flash isnt exactly the word im looking for... Basically anything thats solid state! Truly you'd never have to install a game on your hard drive because it would read faster from the cartridge and load times would be almost non-existant!

At the least, I expect it from Nintendo.



starcraft on 08 September 2009
inverted3reality said:
It depends on how long this generation lasts. DL will not be viable for 5-6 years(judging from current American landlines projections)

That being said, Microsoft will have to come up with a proprietary format, or pay sony for blu-ray Microsoft would have to pay the Blu-Ray association, of which Sony is just one of many partners, they could also use HD DVD (to reduce piracy). Microsoft is going to try and stretch this gen as long as possible because quiet frankly, as blu-ray adoption goes up(and it will sky rocket as the crisis slowly weeds out) dvds are going to be a thing of the past like vhs within 3 years Blu-Ray adoption does not look like eliminating DVD's ever.  Both will disappear eventually in the face of downloads.  But not only will DVD not be irrelevant in three years, it will probably still sell in much higher volume than Blu-Ray. Blu-ray drives will be standard on PCs (not in three years they wont) and the average PC game (which is already running up to like 15gb) will be 50gb (again, production costs would make this completely impossible anytime soon). the PS3 will, of course, use 100gb blu-ray discs, or possibly 400gb (which is already cheap enough for mass production (LOL?)).

1 TB blu-ray discs are also available, though still too expensive for commercial use.

Blu-Ray is the last hard media that will be used, that is 100% sure. and DVD is going out.

Blu-ray is awesome because of how incredibly powerful it is. The Blu-Ray scales exponentially with write speed, so faster drives (albeit, currently expensive) are monstrous for speeds and make dvd drives look like little babies (next generation maybe, but right now the Xbox 360 DVD drive has a substantially higher maximum read speed than the PS3's blu-ray drive).

What I predict will happen is this. For the PS4, Sony will use a smaller cell, since the cell is already way more powerful than most PC processors (LOL), but its at least good enough. A new video card, and a faster BR drive. the PS4 will be so cheap for Sony to make, and will retail starting out at around 249.99. Its amazing, Sony only needs to live through this gen and they are set for at least 2 more gens due to high their tech is. Pop in another nvidia graphics card and the programming is virtually the same.

The Cell can grow, become more powerful while maintaining the same program and engine usage. Sony are actually in a fantastic position for the next gen. Cell v2.0 will be even cheaper than the cell we're using now, and so will hard drive space, as well as blu-ray drives.

TL;DR, blu-ray. It's here to stay.

This is one of the most inaccurate posts I have ever read on VGC, with the one possible exception of the first line.

 



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Mr Khan on 08 September 2009

High capacity SD Cards are still kinda expensive, though that would be lessened somewhat in the 2-3 years before next gen. Certainly you could make an 8 GB card cheaply enough, which could hold the vast majority of current 360 games, and compression only gets better with time.



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gustave154 on 08 September 2009

Purely downloadable games. From handhelds to console to phones.
Sony's doing it with the PSP Go and PSN.
Microsoft's doing it with XBLA.
Apple's doing it with the I Phone apps store.
Nintendo's doing it with WiiWare.



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