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sc94597 on 18 August 2009
MidnightRider85 said:
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     Well, it all comes down to if you would rather own a system with 500 good to great games or one with only 150.

Yeah, but by the time the DS is 8 years into it's life, there is a big chance it will have just as many or more. Why even bother buying next generation consoles if you can just get a PS2 with 500 good games? That applies to all consoles this generation, not just the Wii and DS.



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FJ-Warez on 19 August 2009
RolStoppable said:
Xxain said:
RolStoppable said:
Normally this would be a joke thread, but I am afraid this one is serious.

ur everywhere today arnt cha?

All these PS3 Slim threads breathed life into the forum. Also, I have to work on beating Soriku's post count by the end of 2010. Since he is still very active, I calculated that I have to post about 187 times a day to accomplish this.

Nice one.

On topic, oh man... here we go again.



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FKNetwork on 19 August 2009

You really shouldn't have jumped the gun with this thread, too early to make comments like that, the 360 and wii may get price cuts in the next few days, then what? prices are back to how they were just all a bit cheaper lol



ironman on 19 August 2009
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Nvm this song fits WAY more then the other 2.

Wow this is such an awesome song!

Indeed! it actually made me think twice about not likeing skillet.



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Lost_Soul on 19 August 2009

You now what, it would have been nice if they gave us the RELEASE date of Gran Turismo..

F the slim i want a release date...



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MidnightRider85 on 19 August 2009
atma998 said:
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Sony supporters are so desperate that they think a 100$ price cut will change something in this gen's outcome. How will they react if in the next 48 hours Microsoft announce a price cut too?

Plus PSP is totally at the bottom of the mountain when we take a look at the DS marketshare (68.1%) and the new model won't change anything. All the major third party games will stay on the DS.

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     Actually, what we mainly see on DS like Wii is a lot of shovelware.  The big third party games on DS don't tend to sell all that well eg. Grand Theft Auto:  Chinatown Wars has come nowhere near selling what the PSP GTA games have sold.  And 50 million PSP's sold is too large of a number for developers to ignore.  That's why we see new games like FF Dissidia and Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker come to PSP while Square generally just continues to remake their back catalogue on DS.

          I'm don't agree with what he says, but I don't agree with with you either. Square-Enix(remember square is dead it is only square enix now) has put it's second largest main series on the DS. This game is called DQIX. Now this game isn't only a mainseries title, it is also on track to outselling every game on the PSP platform. The best the PSP has to get near the size of DQIX is Final Fantasy XIII Agito, and even then it is nowhere near as big as a main series dragon quest. So how about we get that out of the way.

 

Now let's talk about the remakes. If the PSP was as profitable as the DS was at the start, I have no doubt that they would have continued remaking games for it. They started out with the first two Final Fantasies(which btw are more of enhanced ports than remakes.) Then the third and forth ones they put on DS. Let me also note, that the DS has more non-remake square enix games than the PSP. I could make a list, but unless you ask me, I won't waste my time.

I just wanted to clarify some things. Also don't get me wrong, the PSP is my second favorite platform this generation, but when it comes to DS(my favorite platform ever) it has to take priority, and I have to defend it when fallacious statements are going against it.


Sorry, but I have no interest in games like FF:Dissidia (a fighting game with FF characters!) or Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker and I'm sure those two titles won't even sell half (and I'm generous) of what DQIX will sell. I really enjoyed FFIII, FFIV, DQIV and DQV even if those games are remakes, btw FFIII and DQV were never released in Occident, so I can't count them as old games because I played it for the first time on my DS.

p.s. PS2 was the King of shovelware, does that make this console a bad one?


The PS2 might have had some shovelware, but it also had over 500 green games at Metacritic (second highest losing out only to pcs which have a game library stretching back much further in time) Wii and DS are nowhere near having 500 games in the green.

Out of the 700 ds games on metacritic,  about 150 of them are in green. Out of 1600 PS2 games, the PS2 had around 550.  Now lets assume you are right about Metacritic determining quality, and that handhelds have the same criticism as consoles. When you compare the amount of games the DS has in green to it's userbas, and the PS2 with it's userbase, they aren't very different. Oh and how about we put the PSP in the mix. The PSP has 130 green games out of 450. So even that is similar to both of them. So I don't see your point as valid.

QFT!


     Well, it all comes down to if you would rather own a system with 500 good to great games or one with only 150.


The Wii is out since a little more than 2.5 years. How many ''good to great games'' were on the PS2 two years and a half after its release?

Anyway I won't let a website like metacritic decides for me if a game is great or no. Was it this same website who put GTAIV as the best game ever a couple of month ago?


     Without counting, I would say a lot more than the 97 Green games the Wii has now.  By the PS2's second Christmas it had Jak and Daxter:  The Precursor Legacy, ICO, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2:  Sons of Liberty, GTA III, Gran Turismo 3-Aspec, Baldur's Gate, Klonoa, and by its third (less than two and a half years into its lifespan) it had added Suikoden III, Kingdom Hearts, The Mark of Kri, GTA:  Vice City, Ratchet and Clank and these are just games that are all probably in the 9 range (there were probably many more in the 7.5 to 9 range).

GTA IV deserves to be up towards the top as much as certain other games like Zelda:  Ocarina of Time (which only had scores so high because there wasn't much else on N64.  If it had been on PS1, it probably would only have been a 9.5 at IGN) do.



atma998 on 19 August 2009
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Sorry, but I have no interest in games like FF:Dissidia (a fighting game with FF characters!) or Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker and I'm sure those two titles won't even sell half (and I'm generous) of what DQIX will sell. I really enjoyed FFIII, FFIV, DQIV and DQV even if those games are remakes, btw FFIII and DQV were never released in Occident, so I can't count them as old games because I played it for the first time on my DS.

p.s. PS2 was the King of shovelware, does that make this console a bad one?


The PS2 might have had some shovelware, but it also had over 500 green games at Metacritic (second highest losing out only to pcs which have a game library stretching back much further in time) Wii and DS are nowhere near having 500 games in the green.

Out of the 700 ds games on metacritic,  about 150 of them are in green. Out of 1600 PS2 games, the PS2 had around 550.  Now lets assume you are right about Metacritic determining quality, and that handhelds have the same criticism as consoles. When you compare the amount of games the DS has in green to it's userbas, and the PS2 with it's userbase, they aren't very different. Oh and how about we put the PSP in the mix. The PSP has 130 green games out of 450. So even that is similar to both of them. So I don't see your point as valid.

QFT!


     Well, it all comes down to if you would rather own a system with 500 good to great games or one with only 150.


The Wii is out since a little more than 2.5 years. How many ''good to great games'' were on the PS2 two years and a half after its release?

Anyway I won't let a website like metacritic decides for me if a game is great or no. Was it this same website who put GTAIV as the best game ever a couple of month ago?


     Without counting, I would say a lot more than the 97 Green games the Wii has now.  By the PS2's second Christmas it had Jak and Daxter:  The Precursor Legacy, ICO, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2:  Sons of Liberty, GTA III, Gran Turismo 3-Aspec, Baldur's Gate, Klonoa, and by its third (less than two and a half years into its lifespan) it had added Suikoden III, Kingdom Hearts, The Mark of Kri, GTA:  Vice City, Ratchet and Clank and these are just games that are all probably in the 9 range (there were probably many more in the 7.5 to 9 range).

GTA IV deserves to be up towards the top as much as certain other games like Zelda:  Ocarina of Time (which only had scores so high because there wasn't much else on N64.  If it had been on PS1, it probably would only have been a 9.5 at IGN) do.

Please GTAIV is the most overrated game of the gen. Why Zelda:OoT always come on #1 in those polls where PEOPLE vote (GameFaqs like) and GTAIV didnt make the top 40? The reason why Ocarina of Time always come in #1 is because it revolutionized video games while GTAIV is just another GTA with better graphics and repetitive gameplay.



MidnightRider85 on 19 August 2009
atma998 said:
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sc94597 said:
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Sorry, but I have no interest in games like FF:Dissidia (a fighting game with FF characters!) or Metal Gear Solid Peacewalker and I'm sure those two titles won't even sell half (and I'm generous) of what DQIX will sell. I really enjoyed FFIII, FFIV, DQIV and DQV even if those games are remakes, btw FFIII and DQV were never released in Occident, so I can't count them as old games because I played it for the first time on my DS.

p.s. PS2 was the King of shovelware, does that make this console a bad one?


The PS2 might have had some shovelware, but it also had over 500 green games at Metacritic (second highest losing out only to pcs which have a game library stretching back much further in time) Wii and DS are nowhere near having 500 games in the green.

Out of the 700 ds games on metacritic,  about 150 of them are in green. Out of 1600 PS2 games, the PS2 had around 550.  Now lets assume you are right about Metacritic determining quality, and that handhelds have the same criticism as consoles. When you compare the amount of games the DS has in green to it's userbas, and the PS2 with it's userbase, they aren't very different. Oh and how about we put the PSP in the mix. The PSP has 130 green games out of 450. So even that is similar to both of them. So I don't see your point as valid.

QFT!


     Well, it all comes down to if you would rather own a system with 500 good to great games or one with only 150.


The Wii is out since a little more than 2.5 years. How many ''good to great games'' were on the PS2 two years and a half after its release?

Anyway I won't let a website like metacritic decides for me if a game is great or no. Was it this same website who put GTAIV as the best game ever a couple of month ago?


     Without counting, I would say a lot more than the 97 Green games the Wii has now.  By the PS2's second Christmas it had Jak and Daxter:  The Precursor Legacy, ICO, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 2:  Sons of Liberty, GTA III, Gran Turismo 3-Aspec, Baldur's Gate, Klonoa, and by its third (less than two and a half years into its lifespan) it had added Suikoden III, Kingdom Hearts, The Mark of Kri, GTA:  Vice City, Ratchet and Clank and these are just games that are all probably in the 9 range (there were probably many more in the 7.5 to 9 range).

GTA IV deserves to be up towards the top as much as certain other games like Zelda:  Ocarina of Time (which only had scores so high because there wasn't much else on N64.  If it had been on PS1, it probably would only have been a 9.5 at IGN) do.

Please GTAIV is the most overrated game of the gen. Why Zelda:OoT always come on #1 in those polls where PEOPLE vote (GameFaqs like) and GTAIV didnt make the top 40? The reason why Ocarina of Time always come in #1 is because it revolutionized video games while GTAIV is just another GTA with better graphics and repetitive gameplay.


     No, Zelda Ocarina of Time is always voted so highly because it is really only one of the handful of memorable N64 games.  But in reality, it is no better than FFVII which IGN gave a 9.5.  GTA IV definitely deserved its review.  For just one very basic reason, after the success of GTA SA Rockstar could have taken the easy road and just released another hiphop game; however, they had the cahones to tell a much deeper story, that might not be as appealing to as many people who probably would have been more happy with another hiphop GTA, about a much more important issue in their last game which deals with the stagnation and failure of the American Dream and the prescence that Eastern European gangsters are wanting to have on a global scale following the collapse of communism in the Soviet Uion.



Salvador on 19 August 2009

I already reserved a PS3 slim, but I will buy only used games so that evil company won't get a cent from me. Same with Microsoft.



MidnightRider85 on 19 August 2009
Salvador said:

I already reserved a PS3 slim, but I will buy only used games so that evil company won't get a cent from me. Same with Microsoft.


      Sony's a far less evil company than Nintendo or Microsoft.  Due to data released last year, Sony's products are far more environmentally friendly than either one of the other two.  Nintendo's were the least environmentally friendly.

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/nintendo-named-least-eco-friendly-tech-firm_10064771.html

 

The funniest line in the linked article comes from Microsoft:  "We are committed to making ongoing progress on environmental issues while maintaining product durability, safety and performance.”

Microsoft strives to maintain product durability.  I guess that is why 54% of 360's break.