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theARTIST0017 said:

you guys keep naming all these anime shows and compare them but can you name any one anime like dbz? . . . didn't think so.

Like what?  A show where a bunch of super powerful or magical people fight each other?

Of course not, no other anime does that or features fighting tournaments... oh wait.



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I personally prefer the original DragonBall, as it has a better story and character devellopement, imo. I however question how people can say it has horrible character design. Akira Toriyama is one of the few Japanese artists that has originality in his style and isn't into stereotypical anime designs. Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon anyone?



lolita said:
I personally prefer the original DragonBall, as it has a better story and character devellopement, imo. I however question how people can say it has horrible character design. Akira Toriyama is one of the few Japanese artists that has originality in his style and isn't into stereotypical anime designs. Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon anyone?

Actually it's just the opposite--his characters all tend to look the same.


Anyone spot the blonde Bulma and Gohan in this picture?

 

Goku's hair turned red!



i liked it



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invisible29 said:
^^ XDDDDDDD I always hated DBZ!!!! I dont know why people like it :S!!!!

the same reason you like bleack "ichigo smash with his big falic sword" people seem to like empty plots with men hitting at each other like monkeys.


Because we are men that like fights I guess.

Anyway, I loved DB when I was a kid, saw the 3 series.

For DB I think the reason of it success is the focus on a boy(kids feel like him) and its adventures to find the magical Dragon Balls, and the appeal comes because this boy is super strong like any young kid would want. The additional violence and fun moments that almost everybody likes give it a bonus. It has interesting characters, starting from goku which could be described as lovable and innocent while he fights for justice, Master Roshi, which is a pervert and a super strong martial artist. In summary its the adventure any boy would like to live and introduced us to DBZ.

DBZ focusses more on super powers, transformation, expanding the whole DB universe. Adding more characters, revealing Gokus background and fighting animation, which werent all that good but when you saw guys destroying planets it was like WOW!!. I think they made the strongest characters ever in an anime(Im not sure) and that was appealing to us.

Giving more power to characters while the series went on  managed to keep the audience entertained, all of this limited character developement, added to some important moments in the series(Krillins death by freezer for example), a simple storyline and a lot of violence and stressfull momets for the characters made kids and teenagers crazy, and I think here is why its different, and better, to the pokemon anime.

Its a very mainstream anime, like pokemon, naruto, etc... but while it captured us when we were young with primitive plot and things like that, it made nostalgia grow and the love for the goku character makes me go back and watch it again when I catch it on TV, to revive the mommets with a character that made me get from school and turn my TV on just to watch it, and the character that almost makes me cry when he died for the last time in DBGT is enjoyable.

The artstyle, that we percieve as non original, it really is original, from a person that draws anime, I can say Toriyamas designs have a different pattern than most other animes. And the music, was OK and it got in ourselves, like Mario music, which isnt good, but it remains as influential and sticky in our heads everytime we hear it.

After all, it did have a story, and as the story goes on, it turns more like in the story of goku and his life with the dragon balls, Goku turns into a Jesus type character. So, although, the anime doesnt compare to the best there are, it surely has a place in many peoples hearts for somethings good it did.



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Words Of Wisdom said:
lolita said:
I personally prefer the original DragonBall, as it has a better story and character devellopement, imo. I however question how people can say it has horrible character design. Akira Toriyama is one of the few Japanese artists that has originality in his style and isn't into stereotypical anime designs. Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon anyone?

Actually it's just the opposite--his characters all tend to look the same.


Anyone spot the blonde Bulma and Gohan in this picture?

 

Goku's hair turned red!

Yeah, but the point I think was, that it differed from the traditional anime disigns, which is true.



pastro243 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
lolita said:
I personally prefer the original DragonBall, as it has a better story and character devellopement, imo. I however question how people can say it has horrible character design. Akira Toriyama is one of the few Japanese artists that has originality in his style and isn't into stereotypical anime designs. Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon anyone?

Actually it's just the opposite--his characters all tend to look the same. 

Yeah, but the point I think was, that it differed from the traditional anime disigns, which is true.

That's the other half of the point I didn't bold.  That I agree with.  He doesn't draw like a lot of anime you see today. 

The problem is that he has like 4-5 character designs that he recycles for just about everything which really kills any sense of originality in his works.



The only real issue i have with DBZ is as someone puts it...

"The show is LET'S WAIT FOR GOKU."

Nobody else is really given much leeway to stop situtions... except Gohan... like once.

Even a large portion of the "Goons" are too tough for the average DBZ character.

So it's just Goku and his 5 or so moves respammed in every fight... and it's not worth watching the supporting characters fight because you just know they're going to get their asses kicked to build up the guy for his fight vs goku.

IMO anime is better when the main character is only marginally stronger then his compatriots.

In DBZ 1,000 Krillins couldn't touch Goku.



Kasz216 said:

The only real issue i have with DBZ is as someone puts it...

"The show is LET'S WAIT FOR GOKU."

Nobody else is really given much leeway to stop situtions... except Gohan... like once.

Even a large portion of the "Goons" are too tough for the average DBZ character.

So it's just Goku and his 5 or so moves respammed in every fight... and it's not worth watching the supporting characters fight because you just know they're going to get their asses kicked to build up the guy for his fight vs goku.

IMO anime is better when the main character is only marginally stronger then his compatriots.

In DBZ 1,000 Krillins couldn't touch Goku.


But Vegeta? he is awesome xD I like it how he insults other characters xD



pastro243 said:
Kasz216 said:

The only real issue i have with DBZ is as someone puts it...

"The show is LET'S WAIT FOR GOKU."

Nobody else is really given much leeway to stop situtions... except Gohan... like once.

Even a large portion of the "Goons" are too tough for the average DBZ character.

So it's just Goku and his 5 or so moves respammed in every fight... and it's not worth watching the supporting characters fight because you just know they're going to get their asses kicked to build up the guy for his fight vs goku.

IMO anime is better when the main character is only marginally stronger then his compatriots.

In DBZ 1,000 Krillins couldn't touch Goku.


But Vegeta? he is awesome xD I like it how he insults other characters xD

Vegeta was cool... but in the end he was just another worthless character in a fight. 

He replaced Picolo as Goku's main rival however the show always made it clear he was a distinct second Bannana.

"Ha Kakarot I am now also a super saiyan!"

"Huh... that's nice.   but i've been a super saiyan 2 for weeks and just had no reason to show it off."

"What?!"

 

(3 weeks later)

"Now I too am a super saiyan two."

"Yeah but now i'm a version 3... it's sleekier and quicker."

"Oh come on!  Your making this up!"

"Nope."

Etc.

 

There wasn't one time as a hero where you didn't think Goku could just bitchslap vegeta down if he wanted too... the only time vegeta rivaled him after their encounter on earth was when he was possesed by the Majin power.