Pyro as Bill said:
MidnightRider85 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
MidnightRider85 said:
Listening to Obama, he says he doesn't want to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000.00 to pay for the healthcare plan.
Now, in my opinion, if people are making over $250,000.00 and have way more than they need to survive, but are refusing to help people that are making less than $25,000.00 to be able to have quality healthcare and other things that are ncessary to enjoy all of the positive aspects of the American Dream and American Way of life, then they are flying in the face of all of the most positive aspects of Western morality and philosophy -- The Golden Rule, Jesus' moral teachings, and should eventually reap the fruits of what they are sowing.
What greedy, rich people fear the most is that the vast majority of poor people will one day wake up and see the inequality of life and run riot much as the zombies in films like Romero's Night of the Living Dead Trilogy do. |
And this is why we have the rule of law, so people like you can't just pick a group of people they don't like, and take there rights.
The bill of rights and the constitution is not just for the people you like, it's for everyone. That's why justice is supposed to be blind. To protect Americans from people like you.
Sadly, someone just like you got elected to be president, so it makes it a lot harder to protect americans from someone with a King complex.
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Yeah, and knowing that you're denying the quality services you receive to other people by refusing to do certain things like pay higher taxes so that they can enjoy quality healthcare too especially when you're in a much higher income bracket is also picking a group of people you don't like and denying them the right to proper medical treatment, etc.
Have you ever read Dicken's The Christmas Carol? The moral was not that being stingy didn't make Scrooge some super nice guy. Yet, I would say that many of these people that are against healthcare reform think that even though they are denying poor people the right to quality treatments etc. that almost every moral teaching of western philosophy says they are entitled to go to church every weekend and think they're going to heaven even though Jesus himself is quoted as saying it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to get into heaven and even exhorted rich people to sell all of their earthly possessions.
I don't think that you would like it anymore if the Jesus of the Bible (and not the Jesus of George Bush was elected president either) if you read things like the Beatitudes or The Gospel of Thomas. But then again, it is refreshing that you are an atheist because you don't base your beliefs on much more than Darwinian principles while many people with beliefs on the issue of healthcare reform similar to yours hypocritically believe they are loved by heavenly powers even though not granting healthcare to others is anti-Bible and even anti-Dickens, and they aren't following those principles of charity or the founding fathers of the USA's principle of seeking to improve the general welfare for all.
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I thought free will was pretty high on Jesus' and God's agenda.
I don't think Jesus liked to steal from either the rich or poor.
Isn't forcing people to give money to charities they don't approve of kind of against Jesus' teachings?
God gave them their lot in life, let God pay their healthcare.
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Actually free will isn't high on God and Jesus' agenda. If so, there wouldn't be different places that different people go according to theology for using free will in different ways. Theology says Hell is for people that use their free will in negative ways. Pandemonium is for people that didn't use their free will wrongly enough to go to hell or properly enough to go to Heaven. And Heaven is supposed to be for people thatused their free will properly. And Jesus even said certain people would make it to Heaven and come up and talk to him and he would say, "Depart from me for I don't know you."
Yeah, but when he saw the priests and others hoarding money in the Jewish Temple, he went up and turned over their money tables. Some of the coins probably rolled to people that hadn't done anything to earn them.
I remember Jesus' saying to the rich man that thought he would be so close to him that he wanted him to go away and sell all his possessions and then give all of the money to the kingdom of god at least with his whole heart.
When Jesus was a man, he went around from town to town healing the sick for free. How many doctors and insurance and pharmaceutical companies do you know that give the very best medical treatment on earth to people for free?
