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CatFangs806 said:
Squilliam said:
The specs are misleading, how about that?

Actually considering that every comparison is really about which of the relative performance 'pros' one has over the other which you take seriously vs the relative cons of the hardware you take seriously or not.

Since an extremely biased individual would look at the pros side and exagerate for their favourite and look at the cons side and diminish the effects and do the reverse for a console they don't favour I don't see any point to this. Hell even the unbiased individuals have differing perspectives about what they consider to be important.

Hell, we could have a very smart individual from Nvidia who designs the chips come to this thread and a guy from IBM from a similar technical background and you may find that they have differing opinions about which is better. The guy from Nvidia may point to the Xenos chip + companion ED-Ram and say "obviously the Xbox 360 is better, it can run more complicated shaders bla bla bla" and etc.

One things for certain is that there are no absolutes! It always 'depends' and thats the way it will stay for the remainder of the generation.

The Xenos chip is actually made by ATI, not Nvidia.

Ya, I know.



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C_Hollomon said:
PS3 looks, smells, and taste more powerful.

Lol??  What does it smell like?  New car smell? Freshly baked chocolate chip cookies? Gardens?  And how can something tase more powerfull?



jacks81x said:
deathgod33 said:
well i dont know what system is more powerful, but so far 360 versions of games have been better or at least on par with the ps3 counterparts and thats all i need to know.

That's a little misleading because it's a known fact that games developed using the 360 as the lead platform do not port well to the PS3.  Up until now pretty much all multiplatform games have used the 360 as the lead platform.  I think we'll have a better comparison when FFXIII comes out, as that's the 1st high-profile multi-platform game I'm aware of that is using the PS3 as the lead platform.

Also...a few devs have said that if you lead on PS3...The 360 will be able to give the same performance....But not vice versa...Funny right?



 



Zizzla_Rachet said:
jacks81x said:
deathgod33 said:
well i dont know what system is more powerful, but so far 360 versions of games have been better or at least on par with the ps3 counterparts and thats all i need to know.

That's a little misleading because it's a known fact that games developed using the 360 as the lead platform do not port well to the PS3.  Up until now pretty much all multiplatform games have used the 360 as the lead platform.  I think we'll have a better comparison when FFXIII comes out, as that's the 1st high-profile multi-platform game I'm aware of that is using the PS3 as the lead platform.

Also...a few devs have said that if you lead on PS3...The 360 will be able to give the same performance....But not vice versa...Funny right?

but that not because power, it's because 360 gpu and cpu get benefits from good programming practices, you are forced to do to get perfomances from the cell and even so many developers only use the PPE, 2 spu and RSX at most.

 it benefits games like burnout paradise that was one of the first 60fps games on the 360.

with a lazy programmer when you give them engine they never rewrite libraries, let alone go on low level programing,  to make use of the cell spus.

epic done a good job making ue3 better, batman asylum, and UT3 run great on the ps3, and look the same or even better 360 version.

same can be said about RE 5.

but this practices  have slowed, graphics lead we being seeing since it takes extra effort, to get better graphics and developers are happy to the outcome they get.

but now you see games from sony, like killzone 2 uncharted 2, GT5 with better graphics than the competition and even so progressing even more.

 



Xoj said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
jacks81x said:
deathgod33 said:
well i dont know what system is more powerful, but so far 360 versions of games have been better or at least on par with the ps3 counterparts and thats all i need to know.

That's a little misleading because it's a known fact that games developed using the 360 as the lead platform do not port well to the PS3.  Up until now pretty much all multiplatform games have used the 360 as the lead platform.  I think we'll have a better comparison when FFXIII comes out, as that's the 1st high-profile multi-platform game I'm aware of that is using the PS3 as the lead platform.

Also...a few devs have said that if you lead on PS3...The 360 will be able to give the same performance....But not vice versa...Funny right?

but that not because power, it's because 360 gpu and cpu get benefits from good programming practices, you are forced to do to get perfomances from the cell and even so many developers only use the PPE, 2 spu and RSX at most.

 it benefits games like burnout paradise that was one of the first 60fps games on the 360.

with a lazy programmer when you give them engine they never rewrite libraries, let alone go on low level programing,  to make use of the cell spus.

epic done a good job making ue3 better, batman asylum, and UT3 run great on the ps3, and look the same or even better 360 version.

same can be said about RE 5.

but this practices  have slowed, graphics lead we being seeing since it takes extra effort, to get better graphics and developers are happy to the outcome they get.

but now you see games from sony, like killzone 2 uncharted 2, GT5 with better graphics than the competition and even so progressing even more.

 

You really think it's lazy programmers...I mean be serios...there is no such thing as a lazy programmer...Time and Budget is what makes PS3 games sub par...



 



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Xoj said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:
jacks81x said:
deathgod33 said:
well i dont know what system is more powerful, but so far 360 versions of games have been better or at least on par with the ps3 counterparts and thats all i need to know.

That's a little misleading because it's a known fact that games developed using the 360 as the lead platform do not port well to the PS3.  Up until now pretty much all multiplatform games have used the 360 as the lead platform.  I think we'll have a better comparison when FFXIII comes out, as that's the 1st high-profile multi-platform game I'm aware of that is using the PS3 as the lead platform.

Also...a few devs have said that if you lead on PS3...The 360 will be able to give the same performance....But not vice versa...Funny right?

but that not because power, it's because 360 gpu and cpu get benefits from good programming practices, you are forced to do to get perfomances from the cell and even so many developers only use the PPE, 2 spu and RSX at most.

 it benefits games like burnout paradise that was one of the first 60fps games on the 360.

with a lazy programmer when you give them engine they never rewrite libraries, let alone go on low level programing,  to make use of the cell spus.

epic done a good job making ue3 better, batman asylum, and UT3 run great on the ps3, and look the same or even better 360 version.

same can be said about RE 5.

but this practices  have slowed, graphics lead we being seeing since it takes extra effort, to get better graphics and developers are happy to the outcome they get.

but now you see games from sony, like killzone 2 uncharted 2, GT5 with better graphics than the competition and even so progressing even more.

 

the comparison for Arkham should emerge soon after the release...as for RE5...LOL...



 



WheelStriker said:
Playstation 3 is better spec wise. The xbox 360's potential has already been unlocked. And we have yet to see the playstation 3's (looks at agent, uncharted 2, god of war 3, final fantasy versus XIII, quantum, heavy rain).


But personally, I feel we are only just starting to unlock the potential of 360. With games like Forza 3, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and even 3rd party games like Lost Planet 2, FF13. Personally no game on PS3 beats Forza 3 or Alan Wake. So it's really what art you prefer. As the PS3 and 360 are so closely matched. The best tech in a game yet is ID Tech 5 RAGE. And that is running better on 360.



yo_john117 said:
C_Hollomon said:
PS3 looks, smells, and taste more powerful.

Lol??  What does it smell like?  New car smell? Freshly baked chocolate chip cookies? Gardens?  And how can something tase more powerfull?


cant you smell it? it smells like some black plastciky stuff ...but serioulsy id go with the choclate chips



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selnor said:
WheelStriker said:
Playstation 3 is better spec wise. The xbox 360's potential has already been unlocked. And we have yet to see the playstation 3's (looks at agent, uncharted 2, god of war 3, final fantasy versus XIII, quantum, heavy rain).


But personally, I feel we are only just starting to unlock the potential of 360. With games like Forza 3, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and even 3rd party games like Lost Planet 2, FF13. Personally no game on PS3 beats Forza 3 or Alan Wake. So it's really what art you prefer. As the PS3 and 360 are so closely matched. The best tech in a game yet is ID Tech 5 RAGE. And that is running better on 360.

Carmack is lazy...Please Selnor...What are you going to do next...Post Real time in game images?



 



selnor said:
WheelStriker said:
Playstation 3 is better spec wise. The xbox 360's potential has already been unlocked. And we have yet to see the playstation 3's (looks at agent, uncharted 2, god of war 3, final fantasy versus XIII, quantum, heavy rain).


But personally, I feel we are only just starting to unlock the potential of 360. With games like Forza 3, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake and even 3rd party games like Lost Planet 2, FF13. Personally no game on PS3 beats Forza 3 or Alan Wake. So it's really what art you prefer. As the PS3 and 360 are so closely matched. The best tech in a game yet is ID Tech 5 RAGE. And that is running better on 360.


those game arnt even out yet,but what do you mean by "beats"?



"They will know heghan belongs to the helghast"

"England expects that everyman will do his duty"

"we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"