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Kasz216 said:
FootballFan said:
Its a form of murder. The parent had the option to save the child but chose not to. He let his daughter die. Simple as that. The parent just let the natural process occur, and is now getting punished accordingly.

When you buy videogames instead of givng money to feed the homeless you are letting the homeless die.

It's a form of murder.  Simple as that.


Theres a difference. The parent could have just taking the daughter to a hospital giving the drugs needed and she would have been fine.



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FootballFan said:
Kasz216 said:
FootballFan said:
Its a form of murder. The parent had the option to save the child but chose not to. He let his daughter die. Simple as that. The parent just let the natural process occur, and is now getting punished accordingly.

When you buy videogames instead of givng money to feed the homeless you are letting the homeless die.

It's a form of murder.  Simple as that.


Theres a difference. The parent could have just taking the daughter to a hospital giving the drugs needed and she would have been fine.

No, the difference is that the father genuinely believed that he was saving his daughter's life. Right or wrong, he thought that God was the answer to his problems.

Choosing video games over helping the homeless is a selfish act which may result in the death of a homeless person.



What?

So owning a console and playing Video games is worse than some idiot letting his daughter die......No.

The difference is people are allowed the odd pleasure in life and the father, regardless of trurly believing God would answer his calls and save his daughter was foolish.

I agree money should be given to homeless people but not at the expensive of the people who could potentially suffer from giving away money. Some people in the world have over 10 million £££ they should give a certain amount of that before others. It amazes me how billionaires can live with themselves.



FootballFan said:
What?

So owning a console and playing Video games is worse than some idiot letting his daughter die......No.

The difference is people are allowed the odd pleasure in life and the father, regardless of trurly believing God would answer his calls and save his daughter was foolish.

I agree money should be given to homeless people but not at the expensive of the people who could potentially suffer from giving away money. Some people in the world have over 10 million £££ they should give a certain amount of that before others. It amazes me how billionaires can live with themselves.

Oh yes.  It's the billionaires fault.  Not yours for your selfish hobby.

I'm sure that lets you sleep better at night.  People are dieing because of their inaction not yours!

 



I agree that people should be allowed to spend their money on what they want, rather than give to charitable donations.

I think what Kasz's point is (and mine, if his isn't), is that you're making out what this man has done to be much worse than it is. It's not "murder", hell, I would argue that it isn't even reckless, and this man isn't actually to blame.



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If i had enough money, i would donate to charity. I just think it should be a bigger priority of the people who can afford to give and still have the luxuries such as the house in every country and the 3 Sports cars they own over mine.

I probably give a higher percentage of my little wealth than they do anyway...



SamuelRSmith said:
I agree that people should be allowed to spend their money on what they want, rather than give to charitable donations.

I think what Kasz's point is (and mine, if his isn't), is that you're making out what this man has done to be much worse than it is. It's not "murder", hell, I would argue that it isn't even reckless, and this man isn't actually to blame.

Indeed.  If anyone is at fault it's society as a whole and that of his religious leaders for not giving him proper guidence.

Though i'd be dishonest if i didn't say that i actually do feel a built guilty about having expensive hobbies for leasure rather then helping out the poor more.



Kasz, your analogy is piss poor and you know it. Stop trying to drag it on.

Contributions made in place of a gaming budget would be meager at best. A couple hundred dollars, perhaps. That would help, but it wouldn't make any kind of permanent change. It would just provide temporary relief for a couple people. And besides, what's to say these people would starve and die anyways? That's a pathetic assumption. Perhaps people in third world countries are starving and dying, but people in the U.S.? I seriously doubt it's a large number. There are tons of homeless shelters, and I've met a lot of homeless who refuse to even get help (and let's not forget the assumption that they're homeless at no fault of their own).

Find a better analogy please.



 

 

FootballFan said:
If i had enough money, i would donate to charity. I just think it should be a bigger priority of the people who can afford to give and still have the luxuries such as the house in every country and the 3 Sports cars they own over mine.

I probably give a higher percentage of my little wealth than they do anyway...

That's still bullshit made up to make yourself feel better about it.

What other people do is completly irrelevent to what you do.

At the end of the day you could be saving peoples lives and you aren't... and unlike this guy.  It's out of selfishness.

Rather then a mistake in doing the wrong thing that you think is the right thing.

Everyone acts out of selfishness, some people in fact more then others.

However that doesn't make any amount of selfishness right.



I feel guilty, too, and I give a fair bit too charity (as does my mother... my father, not so much) but I also feel that by me spending my money on luxuries, I'm keeping more people in work - that, and I get more luxuries.